[AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory

[Ken Knierim]

200/ton for cars? Damn... maybe I need to push a couple tractor hulks out
to a scrapper. I've got the good parts off them and Momma told me the yard
needs a wee bit of cleanup. I know, I know... sacrilege, but that almost
sounds worthwhile.

Ken in AZ


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:41 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:

> I agree Dean. not wanting to start anything political, but I think we need
> to take care of ourselves first.  Nothing good will come out of this big
> housing boom we are experiencing in my area.  I know that by the time I can
> get my 80 acres ready for sale and move to my other farm, the prices will
> be at the lowest in history.  It always works that way.  By the time I was
> ready to scrap a lot of metal around here, the scrap steel prices went down
> to nothing.  Old cars are up to $200/ton here now...
>
> Cecil
> On 5/22/2021 11:20 AM, Dean VP wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Being on the West Coast close to a major port city for over 40 years I’ve
> been fully aware of how much of our WA products gets shipped to the Far
> East such as our lumber and Apples.  And have become accustomed to that
> trade as normal.  What I guess I didn’t make clear is I have never seen the
> lumber quantity being shipped to the Far East this large and found it a bit
> of an oxymoron  that it would occur at the same time as we were having a
> domestic lumber shortage.  Not taking care of our own domestic needs first
>  is what I was describing as “SUM TING WONG”.   Especially when the
> recipient is China who is not an ally but an enemy. But I guess that is the
> current political/government policy. I will attach the same moniker to that
> policy “SUM TING WONG”
>
>
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel
> of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
>
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Bruer
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 22, 2021 8:07 AM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory
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>
>
> Dean, what you are seeing at the mills has been going on since the end of
> WW II.  The government’s efforts at rebuilding Japan escalated into a
> regular market causing a constant stream of lumber going to the far East.
> That market is now, of course, dominated by China.  My family were
> wholesale building materials distributors and sort of specialized in west
> coast lumber for the middle Tennessee area.  I grew up listening to
> complaints about how our lumber prices were determined by whatever they
> were paying at any given time.  My wife and I took an Alaska cruise in 1990
> and saw shiploads of lumber in each port we visited, all going to that
> Eastern market.
>
>
>
> There are now reports of timber thefts here.  The tree of choice is white
> oak.  White oak is primarily used for making whiskey barrels.  Demand is
> surging.
>
>
>
> Bill Bruer
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
>
>
> *From:* Dean VP <deanvp at att.net>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 22, 2021 1:42 AM
>
> *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> This isn’t that complex relative to Sum Ting Wong.  With the current
> demand outstripping supply here in the NW sawmills can name their price
> which would be far and away exceeding any contractual price they have with
> overseas customers. The SUM Ting Wong problem is the lack of Greed. Or
> loyalty to local NW customers who will pay more.
>
>
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel
> of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
>
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Stephen
> Offiler
> *Sent:* Friday, May 21, 2021 5:04 AM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory
>
>
>
> If I'm the owner of that sawmill and the Chinese are outbidding domestic
> buyers, I'm probably taking the Capitalist route and selling to the highest
> bidder.  Not that I have any real idea what's going on, but I'm just
> running off the K.I.S.S. principle, and that makes sense to me.  Not sure
> what kind of conspiracy would have to be playing out if there's Sum Ting
> Wong.
>
>
>
> SO
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM deanvp <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
> You may recall I recently was stunned to see more inventory of cut lumber
> at a local saw mill than I had seen in years.  It just totally was
> inconsistent with the lumber shortage vs demand driving up prices of lumber
> by unheard of percentages.  Well, I learned a little bit more about this
> inventory of lumber.  It is not for domestic consumption.  It is headed for
> China.  How does that float your boat?  It really, really  **&^%#'s me off.
> Sum ting Wong.
>
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