<div dir="ltr"><div>200/ton for cars? Damn... maybe I need to push a couple tractor hulks out to a scrapper. I've got the good parts off them and Momma told me the yard needs a wee bit of cleanup. I know, I know... sacrilege, but that almost sounds worthwhile. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Ken in AZ<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:41 AM Cecil Bearden <<a href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I agree Dean. not wanting to start anything political, but I
think we need to take care of ourselves first. Nothing good will
come out of this big housing boom we are experiencing in my area.
I know that by the time I can get my 80 acres ready for sale and
move to my other farm, the prices will be at the lowest in
history. It always works that way. By the time I was ready to
scrap a lot of metal around here, the scrap steel prices went down
to nothing. Old cars are up to $200/ton here now... <br>
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<p>Cecil<br>
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<div>On 5/22/2021 11:20 AM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bill,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Being on the West Coast close to a major
port city for over 40 years I’ve been fully aware of how much
of our WA products gets shipped to the Far East such as our
lumber and Apples. And have become accustomed to that trade
as normal. What I guess I didn’t make clear is I have never
seen the lumber quantity being shipped to the Far East this
large and found it a bit of an oxymoron that it would occur
at the same time as we were having a domestic lumber
shortage. Not taking care of our own domestic needs first is
what I was describing as “SUM TING WONG”. Especially when
the recipient is China who is not an ally but an enemy. But I
guess that is the current political/government policy. I will
attach the same moniker to that policy “SUM TING WONG”<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT
<a href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Bill Bruer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 22, 2021 8:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dean,
what you are seeing at the mills has been going on
since the end of WW II. The government’s efforts at
rebuilding Japan escalated into a regular market
causing a constant stream of lumber going to the far
East. That market is now, of course, dominated by
China. My family were wholesale building materials
distributors and sort of specialized in west coast
lumber for the middle Tennessee area. I grew up
listening to complaints about how our lumber prices
were determined by whatever they were paying at any
given time. My wife and I took an Alaska cruise in
1990 and saw shiploads of lumber in each port we
visited, all going to that Eastern market.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">There
are now reports of timber thefts here. The tree of
choice is white oak. White oak is primarily used for
making whiskey barrels. Demand is surging.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Bill
Bruer<br>
Murfreesboro, TN<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
<a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" title="deanvp@att.net" target="_blank">Dean
VP</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Saturday, May 22, 2021 1:42 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" title="at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">'Antique Tractor Email
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Steve,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">This isn’t
that complex relative to Sum Ting Wong. With the
current demand outstripping supply here in the NW
sawmills can name their price which would be far and
away exceeding any contractual price they have with
overseas customers. The SUM Ting Wong problem is the
lack of Greed. Or loyalty to local NW customers who
will pay more.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dean VP<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Snohomish,
WA 98290<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"Socialism
is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal
sharing of misery."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">..Winston
Churchill...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> AT <<a href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Offiler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 21, 2021 5:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge
inventory<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">If I'm
the owner of that sawmill and the Chinese are
outbidding domestic buyers, I'm probably taking the
Capitalist route and selling to the highest bidder.
Not that I have any real idea what's going on, but
I'm just running off the K.I.S.S. principle, and
that makes sense to me. Not sure what kind of
conspiracy would have to be playing out if there's
Sum Ting Wong.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">SO<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Fri,
May 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM deanvp <<a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank">deanvp@att.net</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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may recall I recently was stunned to see more
inventory of cut lumber at a local saw mill
than I had seen in years. It just totally was
inconsistent with the lumber shortage vs
demand driving up prices of lumber by unheard
of percentages. Well, I learned a little bit
more about this inventory of lumber. It is
not for domestic consumption. It is headed
for China. How does that float your boat? It
really, really **&^%#'s me off. Sum ting
Wong.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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