[AT] One of our own / Super M exhaust leak
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Sun May 2 06:44:42 PDT 2021
I have had a lot of good luck with reverse twist drills and using the
progressive hole method. When you get the inside cut out and the
pressure relieved, many times the threads will come out.
Cecil
On 5/2/2021 8:20 AM, Dean Vinson wrote:
>
> Thanks, Dean, your suggestion about the cape chisel sounds good. I’ll
> have a go at removing the broken stud in a week or two, after the
> replacement parts arrive. And you betcha about being grateful for
> the five.
>
> Dean Vinson
>
> Saint Paris, Ohio
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Dean VP
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 1, 2021 3:17 PM
> *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] One of our own / Super M exhaust leak
>
> Dean,
>
> I think you need to be very grateful that you have 5 out w/o a
> problem. In fact you need to go to a casino and bet heavily. Getting
> out the twisted off stud can be a challenge. First of all forget
> using “Easy Outs” in this situation. They are better known as “Never
> Outs”. It appears to me that the stud broke off even with the surface
> of the head so I won’t make any comments about welding on a nut or
> using a pipe wrench. Your only choice is to drill a hole into the
> center of the remaining stud and drill a progressively larger hole
> until you reach the threads of the head. Then you can try a couple
> things. One is you can melt out the remaining part of the stud using
> an acetylene torch. Remember Cast Iron melts at a higher temperature
> that the stud material. Or one trick that I have used successfully
> multiple times and that is to use a “cape” chisel and slide it between
> the threads of the stud and the head in two to three places. Use as
> small of a cape chisel as you can get by with to minimize thread
> damage. What is a cape chisel? Think of a nail punch that has been
> ground off right at the tip at a very sharp angle. Be careful to not
> ruin the temper. Then drive that edge into the slot where the two
> threads meet. It will peel and separate the two threads apart. Repeat
> this step a couple more times around the stud and the remaining
> threads should pop out. If they don’t, the torch will aid in loosening
> them up. Try not to use the cape chisel any more than necessary to
> avoid ruining very much of the threads. Ruining SOME of the threads
> is not a problem. Clean up the threads in the hole with a repair tap
> or bottom tap. Using as taper tap first before the bottom tap
> sometimes helps.
>
> This whole job requires a lot of patience and make sure there are no
> children or women around. 😊
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> *On Behalf Of *Dean Vinson
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 1, 2021 8:15 AM
> *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] One of our own / Super M exhaust leak
>
> Phil, finally time for a followup. Per your advice below I’ve been
> hitting the manifold nuts with PB Blaster every couple of weeks, and
> finally went out to put a wrench on them today. First four came
> right off, easy and clean, and I was thinking “Sweet, I’m golden.”
>
> #5 backed the stud out rather than loosen the nut, and then #6 left me
> the little souvenir shown in the attached photo. Looks like this
> particular Saturday isn’t going to be the one where I finish this job. ;)
>
> Dean Vinson
>
> Saint Paris, Ohio
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> *On Behalf Of *Phil Auten
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 31, 2021 11:17 PM
> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] One of our own / Super M exhaust leak
>
> Well, Dean, while the tractor is sitting, let those nuts and bolts
> soak with PB Blaster, Kroil or your favorite penetrant. They will be a
> lot happier to come loose without breaking then. Have fun with it and
> remember, as George Willer once told me, "Time is your friend".
>
> Phil in TX
>
> On 1/31/2021 5:42 PM, Dean Vinson wrote:
>
> Hmmm, good point about “straightforward” being a problematic
> concept, gents. I’ll likely let it sit for a couple more weeks
> while I ponder it. :)
>
> Dean Vinson
>
> Saint Paris, Ohio
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike M
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:32 PM
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> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] [External] Re: One of our own / Super M
> exhaust leak
>
> Dean, can't that spot be brazed to seal it? Nothing is as straight
> forward when removing 70 year old nuts. I'd be inclined to spray
> them with PB Blaster or something like it for a week or so before
> trying it. Wouldn't hurt to get them cherry red a few times as well.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 1/31/2021 12:36 PM, Gunnells, Brad R wrote:
>
> <quote>Seems like it'd be pretty straightforward.....</quote>
>
> Dean, that right there may have been what takes it from a
> fairly quick and easy job to one of rusted and broken studs to
> create all kinds of inventive new language. Hahaha
>
> Just kidding. Hopefully everything comes apart easily. If It's
> like my WD45 it shouldn't be too bad unless you run into
> issues with studs (which I did).
>
> Congrats on the picture!
>
> Brad
>
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>
> *From:*AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of
> Dean Vinson <dean at vinsonfarm.net> <mailto:dean at vinsonfarm.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:23 AM
> *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
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> *Subject:* [External] Re: [AT] One of our own / Super M
> exhaust leak
>
> Thanks, gentlemen! That same tractor, sitting in that same
> spot, now needs some attention to fix an exhaust leak. I
> went to use the tractor a few Saturdays ago, and right after
> firing it up noticed this regular tapping sound. For some
> time now I've been noticing the exhaust pipe won't stay
> securely seated in the manifold and I have to tighten it up
> now and then, and every time I do so I worry the top of the
> manifold will crack apart, so I suspected it had finally
> cracked. I walked around and took a little video, but didn't
> want to really get into it right then so I shut the tractor
> down and used another one (the Ford 3600) instead.
>
> Yesterday I did a little more investigation, and found at
> least one spot where the exhaust manifold gasket is bad. A
> few video clips:
>
> https://youtu.be/gAZ9FwxrC34
> https://youtu.be/hHfx1c5Hu4s
> https://youtu.be/v0qLG8xuPYM
>
> I'm inclined to go ahead and replace the manifold, since I've
> been worrying about it anyway, and at minimum I have to
> replace the gasket. Seems like it'd be pretty
> straightforward, just get the air intake pipe out of the way,
> unbolt the old manifold, replace the gasket, and put
> everything back together?
>
> Dean Vinson
> Saint Paris, Ohio
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Mike M
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:13 PM
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>
> Congratulations Dean very nice picture.
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 1/30/2021 8:31 PM, Milo Holroyd wrote:
> > Congratulations! Dean Vinson!
> >
> >
> https://mailchi.mp/21b62a015548/featured-tractor-photo-january?e=cfec74a33e
> >
> >
> > Milo
>
>
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