[AT] OT-Windows 10

cgs oxygenfarm at gmail.com
Fri Feb 19 07:39:09 PST 2021


Being some what a coward (and wanting value for cost) I use Linux which 
costs /no/ $$$ and offers /fewer/ heartaches.

On 2/19/21 10:17 AM, William Parris wrote:
>
> Just tried to do an in-place upgrade from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 
> Pro 20H2 on my friend’s Dell Inspiron laptop.
>
> After the upgrade, the laptop screen is black and cannot be made to 
> work.  The laptop works on an external monitor.
>
> I just tried to upgrade a Dell Optiplex workstation running Windows 10 
> 2004 to Windows 10 20H2. This also failed.  I’ve
>
> never had a Windows 10 version upgrade fail and neither has my brother 
> who has his own IT company.
>
> That is why before I do anything like this, I do an image of the 
> system using Active@ Disk Image. That way, if I have a failure
>
> for whatever reason, I can restore the system to what it was before.  
> It’s better to be safe than sorry.  Of course I could have
>
> done a fresh installation of Windows 7 on the laptop and Windows 10 
> 2004 on the desktop workstation, but all of the programs
>
> and files would have been lost.  If the system is not running, you 
> can’t roll it back to the previous version of Windows.
>
> I always assume that if anything can go wrong, it has a good chance of 
> doing it.  It’s too late to close the barn door after the horse is out.
>
> William
>
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>
> *From:*AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Mogrits
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:21 PM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] OT-Windows 10
>
> No worries Mike, just "let it rip". If it offers you a chance to save 
> a restore point back to whatever version you have now let it do that 
> but as I recall the Windows 10 upgrade automatically saves that 
> restore point. Once you have it installed and it boots up reliably, 
> run that open shell file and I think you will be well pleased.
>
> Unrelated to the open shell interface, Windows 10 will want to 
> download and install new drivers for whatever hardware you have. At 
> this point you should have no worries since 10 has been around so 
> long. But it could take Windows a week of intermittent updates to get 
> all these done.
>
> Warren
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:39 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com 
> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>
>     OK, so last night I downloaded windows 10, I have not installed it
>     yet. Is there anything I should know or do before hitting the
>     install button. I've already downloaded Open Shell, I'm just not
>     sure what to expect, when I click the button.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Mike M
>
>     On 2/16/2021 9:27 PM, William Parris wrote:
>
>>     Classic Shell has been abandoned and is not being developed. It
>>     has been taken over by others and is now called Open Shell.  This
>>     is based on the original Classic Shell.
>>
>>     You definitely want to install Open Shell and tweak it to the
>>     Windows start menu style you like best.  It is much easier than
>>     using the native Windows 10 start menu.
>>
>>     William
>>
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>>
>>     *From:*AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] *On
>>     Behalf Of *Mogrits
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 8:04 PM
>>     *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AT] OT-Windows 10
>>
>>     I second Dan Glass' comment. BEFORE installing Windows 10
>>     download to the desktop the free add-on "Windows Classicshell" by
>>     searching those keywords. Get the latest version you can find. I
>>     say download before because I found it very difficult to navigate
>>     in Windows 10 to the point I had trouble even opening a browser
>>     window. I said download to the desktop so you can actually find
>>     it under Windows 10.
>>
>>     After the Windows 10 is installed then run the classic shell
>>     install file you downloaded. Once it's installed you can set
>>     classic shell to run just like any version back to Windows XP. I
>>     think the simplest way is to open classic shell and select the
>>     "Start Menu" Tab. You can customize it a lot but it's not
>>     necessary to do so. Just set it back to the version you liked and
>>     it's business as usual.
>>
>>     Warren
>>
>>     On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 8:54 AM Dan Glass <danglass at usa.com
>>     <mailto:danglass at usa.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Download Classic Shell and it makes Windows 10 look and act
>>         like Windows 7.  I have used it since Window 10 came out with
>>         no problems.
>>
>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 2:39 AM
>>         *From:* "Mike M" <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>         *To:* "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>         <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>         <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>>         *Subject:* [AT] OT-Windows 10
>>
>>         Has anyone here been able to download windows 10, and have it
>>         act like
>>         windows 7? I love my windows 7, but it its not compatible 
>>         with the
>>         current tax preparation software Turbo-tax.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Mike M
>>
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