[AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera recommendation

Sat Aug 21 10:14:55 PDT 2021

He said if there was any issue with insurance paying for anything, he would
take care of it. Made that statement to several people, and in front of the
police. One driver was doing a lot of video with his phone and probably has
it on record.

Carl

On Saturday, August 21, 2021, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:

> I bet his insurance won't pay either..
>
> Cecil
> On 8/21/2021 8:34 AM, Brad Loomis wrote:
>
> OUCH!
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:14 AM Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, yesterday evening didn’t turn out to good for me. Wife sent me to
>> the local church dinner event to get dinner since it was too muggy and she
>> decided not to cook. On the way a driver pulling a large dump trailer
>> filled with rock took out my windshield , as well as the windshield of over
>> 14+ other drivers. I have several windshield and hood chips and dings, one
>> “chip” the size of a tennis ball. Turns out his gate was bent up and even
>> though it was fully closed, rock was falling out of the bottom. Didn’t help
>> that he was doing 55 in a 35 zone. Turned around and chased him for a
>> couple of miles before I could get him to pull over. No sooner than he got
>> out of his truck, several other drivers pulled up behind him. Long story
>> short several local police cars and a sheriff’s car showed up and started
>> taking damage reports from all the drivers who called, they must have been
>> flooded with calls. The road was lined for several miles with police cars
>> and drivers who pulled over where they got hit. One officer was tasked with
>> taking pictures of the damage, as well as everybody’s license plate,
>> drivers’s license, registration, and proof of insurance. Another officer
>> was tasked with rolling everything into one large report instead of dozens
>> of incident reports. With all those pictures, that’s going to be a large
>> report.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021, <k7jdj at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Many years ago my mother was in a McDonald's parking lot minor damage
>>> and she was charged with hit and run because she failed to give her diver
>>> license number to the other driver.  She thought all that was needed was
>>> the vehicle license plate, of course anyone could have been driving.  State
>>> law requires you to give your driver license number to the other driver.  I
>>> not only give them my license, but take a picture of them holding it so it
>>> shows my license in their hand.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> Renton, WA
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: deanvp at att.net
>>> To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <
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>>> Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2021 3:51 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera
>>> recommendation
>>>
>>> Thanks every one for your comments and suggestions. I didn’t do certain
>>> things at the accident site I should have. But… let me tell you I was more
>>> than a little shook up. In those last few seconds while trying to miss him
>>> your mind goes into overdrive thinking terrible things.   I think I did a
>>> damned good job of minimizing the damage both to his truck as well as
>>> mine.  If I had rear ended him is suspect both trucks would have been
>>> totaled with the possibility of some injuries.  So having the sense under
>>> pressure to drive to the right to miss him and not hit the trees was pretty
>>> good for this old man.   But…. I wasn’t thinking very good when it came
>>> time to get pictures of the scene and of various documents.  I have a
>>> perfectly good Smart Phone but I resorted to hand writing all information.
>>> There were two factors that confused things for me.  He left the scene of
>>> the accident for a short time so the actual accident scene had already been
>>> compromised and it was pitch black with no moon or the moon was covered
>>> with clouds. It was really dark.  So I resorted to a flashlight. Forgetting
>>> that my Android phone has a flash etc.  I’ll admit I was a bit shook up. My
>>> mind had contemplated something much worse. I wasn’t thinking 100% straight
>>> anymore. The strange part is I cannot find any evidence of the collision at
>>> the site in daylight. I cannot find any pieces of car parts, or plastic or
>>> anything.  I’m now thinking it has been stripped of any evidence.  I’ve
>>> been up and down the road at several driveways and cannot find a thing.
>>> That really bothers me.  I also am a bit confused about how ABS brakes
>>> work, I was on the brake pedal as hard as can be but I never left a skid
>>> mark on the asphalt road.  I know ABS is supposed to find the maximum
>>> traction when braking but as hard as I was on the brake pedal I don’t quite
>>> understand why is didn’t leave a mark.
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
>>> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>>
>>> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *
>>> deanvp at att.net
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:27 PM
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera
>>> recommendation
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry to change the subject but I have a little challenge right now. My
>>> antique Tractor puller P/U and I were in a little fender bender incident
>>> recently which has become very complex since  the other driver gave me all
>>> false data as to who he was, where he lived, how to contact him  and
>>> whether he was insured or not.  Other than that things are going well.
>>> After about 5 days of online investigation my wife and I tracked him down
>>> and have a working cell phone number for him.  I’ve talked to him and we
>>> have exchanged several text messages but I still don’t know where he lives
>>> and who his insurance company is. I gave him my insurance company verbally
>>> at the accident but he seems to have forgotten it and now repeatedly asks
>>> for who the company is. I refuse to give it to him until I get a valid
>>> insurance company name from him.  All he will talk about is getting his
>>> truck fixed.  And that the accident was my fault. To add more stupid stuff
>>> to this whole fiasco he is now claiming injury which is a crock of cow
>>> dung.
>>>
>>> He backed out of a blind driveway onto the road heading in the same
>>> direction as I was.  This was at about 9:45PM and it was pitch black dark
>>> with no street lights way out in the country.  I only noticed the
>>> reflection of my headlights off of the side of his black Dodge Pick Up. No
>>> tail lights, no back up lights, no brake lights, no running lights, no
>>> lights of any sort. I immediately slammed on the brakes and started
>>> steering and braking to the right  of his truck which was now close to
>>> being in the right orientation to head down the road. I saw the eye of a
>>> needle to try to get between the truck and the trees at the driveway exit.
>>> Well, I came to a stop right after brushing the side of his truck and
>>> messing up my left fender. I got close to threading the needle.  Could have
>>> been a pretty violent rear-ender otherwise.   But as you might expect he is
>>> now blaming me and I hit him therefore I am at fault.  I have no witnesses
>>> to prove what happened.  I’ve informed my insurance Co and filed a
>>> collision report with the Washington State Patrol.  I’m pretty sure he is
>>> an uninsured driver which is illegal in our state. In my investigation
>>> tracking him down I have been told he is involved in illicit  drugs and he
>>> DOES have a criminal record..  So…. Due to this I am looking for a dash
>>> camera to mount on our vehicles so I don’t have to go through this
>>> situation of not having proof again.
>>>
>>> So I’m looking for Dash Camera suggestions for my 2003 Ford F250 and a
>>> 2016 Buick L:acrosse.  I usually don’t buy the fancy stuff I just get the
>>> basics  in a good product that are needed.    Suggestions would be
>>> appreciated???? I’ve had one recommended to me and that is a Rove 4 but I
>>> know nothing about it yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
>>> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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