He said if there was any issue with insurance paying for anything, he would take care of it. Made that statement to several people, and in front of the police. One driver was doing a lot of video with his phone and probably has it on record.<div><br></div><div>Carl<br><br>On Saturday, August 21, 2021, Cecil Bearden <<a href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I bet his insurance won't pay either..</p>
<p>Cecil<br>
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<div>On 8/21/2021 8:34 AM, Brad Loomis
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:14
AM Carl Szabelski <<a href="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com" target="_blank">c.s.szabelski@gmail.com</a>>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Well,
yesterday evening didn’t turn out to good for me. Wife sent me
to the local church dinner event to get dinner since it was
too muggy and she decided not to cook. On the way a driver
pulling a large dump trailer filled with rock took out my
windshield , as well as the windshield of over 14+ other
drivers. I have several windshield and hood chips and dings,
one “chip” the size of a tennis ball. Turns out his gate was
bent up and even though it was fully closed, rock was falling
out of the bottom. Didn’t help that he was doing 55 in a 35
zone. Turned around and chased him for a couple of miles
before I could get him to pull over. No sooner than he got out
of his truck, several other drivers pulled up behind him. Long
story short several local police cars and a sheriff’s car
showed up and started taking damage reports from all the
drivers who called, they must have been flooded with calls.
The road was lined for several miles with police cars and
drivers who pulled over where they got hit. One officer was
tasked with taking pictures of the damage, as well as
everybody’s license plate, drivers’s license, registration,
and proof of insurance. Another officer was tasked with
rolling everything into one large report instead of dozens of
incident reports. With all those pictures, that’s going to be
a large report.
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<div>Carl<br>
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On Friday, August 20, 2021, <<a href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com" target="_blank">k7jdj@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div> <font size="2">Many years ago my mother was in a
McDonald's parking lot minor damage and she was
charged with hit and run because she failed to give
her diver license number to the other driver. She
thought all that was needed was the vehicle license
plate, of course anyone could have been driving.
State law requires you to give your driver license
number to the other driver. I not only give them my
license, but take a picture of them holding it so it
shows my license in their hand. <br>
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<div><font size="2">Gary</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Renton, WA</font><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank">deanvp@att.net</a><br>
To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2021 3:51 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front
Dash Camera recommendation<br>
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<div>Thanks every one for your comments and
suggestions. I didn’t do certain things at
the accident site I should have. But… let me
tell you I was more than a little shook up.
In those last few seconds while trying to
miss him your mind goes into overdrive
thinking terrible things. I think I did a
damned good job of minimizing the damage
both to his truck as well as mine. If I had
rear ended him is suspect both trucks would
have been totaled with the possibility of
some injuries. So having the sense under
pressure to drive to the right to miss him
and not hit the trees was pretty good for
this old man. But…. I wasn’t thinking very
good when it came time to get pictures of
the scene and of various documents. I have
a perfectly good Smart Phone but I resorted
to hand writing all information. There were
two factors that confused things for me. He
left the scene of the accident for a short
time so the actual accident scene had
already been compromised and it was pitch
black with no moon or the moon was covered
with clouds. It was really dark. So I
resorted to a flashlight. Forgetting that my
Android phone has a flash etc. I’ll admit I
was a bit shook up. My mind had contemplated
something much worse. I wasn’t thinking 100%
straight anymore. The strange part is I
cannot find any evidence of the collision at
the site in daylight. I cannot find any
pieces of car parts, or plastic or
anything. I’m now thinking it has been
stripped of any evidence. I’ve been up and
down the road at several driveways and
cannot find a thing. That really bothers
me. I also am a bit confused about how ABS
brakes work, I was on the brake pedal as
hard as can be but I never left a skid mark
on the asphalt road. I know ABS is supposed
to find the maximum traction when braking
but as hard as I was on the brake pedal I
don’t quite understand why is didn’t leave a
mark.</div>
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<div>Dean VP</div>
<div>Snohomish, WA 98290</div>
<div>"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of
envy, its inherent virtue is the equal
sharing of misery."</div>
<div>..Winston Churchill...</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> AT
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Off topic -
P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera
recommendation</div>
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<div style="margin-left:23.1pt">Sorry to
change the subject but I have a little
challenge right now. My antique
Tractor puller P/U and I were in a
little fender bender incident recently
which has become very complex since
the other driver gave me all false
data as to who he was, where he lived,
how to contact him and whether he was
insured or not. Other than that
things are going well. After about 5
days of online investigation my wife
and I tracked him down and have a
working cell phone number for him.
I’ve talked to him and we have
exchanged several text messages but I
still don’t know where he lives and
who his insurance company is. I gave
him my insurance company verbally at
the accident but he seems to have
forgotten it and now repeatedly asks
for who the company is. I refuse to
give it to him until I get a valid
insurance company name from him. All
he will talk about is getting his
truck fixed. And that the accident
was my fault. To add more stupid stuff
to this whole fiasco he is now
claiming injury which is a crock of
cow dung. </div>
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<div style="margin-left:23.1pt">He
backed out of a blind driveway onto
the road heading in the same direction
as I was. This was at about 9:45PM
and it was pitch black dark with no
street lights way out in the country.
I only noticed the reflection of my
headlights off of the side of his
black Dodge Pick Up. No tail lights,
no back up lights, no brake lights, no
running lights, no lights of any sort.
I immediately slammed on the brakes
and started steering and braking to
the right of his truck which was now
close to being in the right
orientation to head down the road. I
saw the eye of a needle to try to get
between the truck and the trees at the
driveway exit. Well, I came to a stop
right after brushing the side of his
truck and messing up my left fender. I
got close to threading the needle.
Could have been a pretty violent
rear-ender otherwise. But as you
might expect he is now blaming me and
I hit him therefore I am at fault. I
have no witnesses to prove what
happened. I’ve informed my insurance
Co and filed a collision report with
the Washington State Patrol. I’m
pretty sure he is an uninsured driver
which is illegal in our state. In my
investigation tracking him down I have
been told he is involved in illicit
drugs and he DOES have a criminal
record.. So…. Due to this I am
looking for a dash camera to mount on
our vehicles so I don’t have to go
through this situation of not having
proof again. </div>
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<div>So I’m looking for Dash Camera
suggestions for my 2003 Ford F250 and
a 2016 Buick L:acrosse. I usually
don’t buy the fancy stuff I just get
the basics in a good product that are
needed. Suggestions would be
appreciated???? I’ve had one
recommended to me and that is a Rove 4
but I know nothing about it yet.</div>
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<div>Dean VP</div>
<div>Snohomish, WA 98290</div>
<div>"Socialism is a philosophy of
failure, the creed of ignorance, and
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is
the equal sharing of misery."</div>
<div>..Winston Churchill...</div>
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