[AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera recommendation

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sat Aug 21 07:04:19 PDT 2021


I bet his insurance won't pay either..

Cecil

On 8/21/2021 8:34 AM, Brad Loomis wrote:
> OUCH!
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:14 AM Carl Szabelski 
> <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Well, yesterday evening didn’t turn out to good for me. Wife sent
>     me to the local church dinner event to get dinner since it was too
>     muggy and she decided not to cook. On the way a driver pulling a
>     large dump trailer filled with rock took out my windshield , as
>     well as the windshield of over 14+ other drivers. I have several
>     windshield and hood chips and dings, one “chip” the size of a
>     tennis ball. Turns out his gate was bent up and even though it was
>     fully closed, rock was falling out of the bottom. Didn’t help that
>     he was doing 55 in a 35 zone. Turned around and chased him for a
>     couple of miles before I could get him to pull over. No sooner
>     than he got out of his truck, several other drivers pulled up
>     behind him. Long story short several local police cars and a
>     sheriff’s car showed up and started taking damage reports from all
>     the drivers who called, they must have been flooded with calls.
>     The road was lined for several miles with police cars and drivers
>     who pulled over where they got hit. One officer was tasked with
>     taking pictures of the damage, as well as everybody’s license
>     plate, drivers’s license, registration, and proof of insurance.
>     Another officer was tasked with rolling everything into one large
>     report instead of dozens of incident reports. With all those
>     pictures, that’s going to be a large report.
>
>     Carl
>
>     On Friday, August 20, 2021, <k7jdj at aol.com <mailto:k7jdj at aol.com>>
>     wrote:
>
>         Many years ago my mother was in a McDonald's parking lot minor
>         damage and she was charged with hit and run because she failed
>         to give her diver license number to the other driver.  She
>         thought all that was needed was the vehicle license plate, of
>         course anyone could have been driving. State law requires you
>         to give your driver license number to the other driver.  I not
>         only give them my license, but take a picture of them holding
>         it so it shows my license in their hand.
>
>         Gary
>
>         Renton, WA
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: deanvp at att.net <mailto:deanvp at att.net>
>         To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
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>         Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2021 3:51 pm
>         Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash
>         Camera recommendation
>
>         Thanks every one for your comments and suggestions. I didn’t
>         do certain things at the accident site I should have. But… let
>         me tell you I was more than a little shook up. In those last
>         few seconds while trying to miss him your mind goes into
>         overdrive thinking terrible things.   I think I did a damned
>         good job of minimizing the damage both to his truck as well as
>         mine.  If I had rear ended him is suspect both trucks would
>         have been totaled with the possibility of some injuries.  So
>         having the sense under pressure to drive to the right to miss
>         him and not hit the trees was pretty good for this old man.  
>         But…. I wasn’t thinking very good when it came time to get
>         pictures of the scene and of various documents.  I have a
>         perfectly good Smart Phone but I resorted to hand writing all
>         information.  There were two factors that confused things for
>         me.  He left the scene of the accident for a short time so the
>         actual accident scene had already been compromised and it was
>         pitch black with no moon or the moon was covered with clouds.
>         It was really dark.  So I resorted to a flashlight. Forgetting
>         that my Android phone has a flash etc.  I’ll admit I was a bit
>         shook up. My mind had contemplated something much worse. I
>         wasn’t thinking 100% straight anymore. The strange part is I
>         cannot find any evidence of the collision at the site in
>         daylight. I cannot find any pieces of car parts, or plastic or
>         anything.  I’m now thinking it has been stripped of any
>         evidence.  I’ve been up and down the road at several driveways
>         and cannot find a thing. That really bothers me.  I also am a
>         bit confused about how ABS brakes work, I was on the brake
>         pedal as hard as can be but I never left a skid mark on the
>         asphalt road.  I know ABS is supposed to find the maximum
>         traction when braking but as hard as I was on the brake pedal
>         I don’t quite understand why is didn’t leave a mark.
>         Dean VP
>         Snohomish, WA 98290
>         "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
>         and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing
>         of misery."
>         ..Winston Churchill...
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>         *Subject:* Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash
>         Camera recommendation
>
>             Sorry to change the subject but I have a little challenge
>             right now. My antique Tractor puller P/U and I were in a
>             little fender bender incident recently which has become
>             very complex since  the other driver gave me all false
>             data as to who he was, where he lived, how to contact him
>              and whether he was insured or not.  Other than that
>             things are going well. After about 5 days of online
>             investigation my wife and I tracked him down and have a
>             working cell phone number for him. I’ve talked to him and
>             we have exchanged several text messages but I still don’t
>             know where he lives and who his insurance company is. I
>             gave him my insurance company verbally at the accident but
>             he seems to have forgotten it and now repeatedly asks for
>             who the company is. I refuse to give it to him until I get
>             a valid insurance company name from him.  All he will talk
>             about is getting his truck fixed.  And that the accident
>             was my fault. To add more stupid stuff to this whole
>             fiasco he is now claiming injury which is a crock of cow
>             dung.
>             He backed out of a blind driveway onto the road heading in
>             the same direction as I was.  This was at about 9:45PM and
>             it was pitch black dark with no street lights way out in
>             the country. I only noticed the reflection of my
>             headlights off of the side of his black Dodge Pick Up. No
>             tail lights, no back up lights, no brake lights, no
>             running lights, no lights of any sort. I immediately
>             slammed on the brakes and started steering and braking to
>             the right  of his truck which was now close to being in
>             the right orientation to head down the road. I saw the eye
>             of a needle to try to get between the truck and the trees
>             at the driveway exit.  Well, I came to a stop right after
>             brushing the side of his truck and messing up my left
>             fender. I got close to threading the needle. Could have
>             been a pretty violent rear-ender otherwise.   But as you
>             might expect he is now blaming me and I hit him therefore
>             I am at fault.  I have no witnesses to prove what
>             happened.  I’ve informed my insurance Co and filed a
>             collision report with the Washington State Patrol.  I’m
>             pretty sure he is an uninsured driver which is illegal in
>             our state. In my investigation tracking him down I have
>             been told he is involved in illicit  drugs and he DOES
>             have a criminal record..  So…. Due to this I am looking
>             for a dash camera to mount on our vehicles so I don’t have
>             to go through this situation of not having proof again.
>             So I’m looking for Dash Camera suggestions for my 2003
>             Ford F250 and a 2016 Buick L:acrosse.  I usually don’t buy
>             the fancy stuff I just get the basics  in a good product
>             that are needed.    Suggestions would be appreciated????
>             I’ve had one recommended to me and that is a Rove 4 but I
>             know nothing about it yet.
>             Dean VP
>             Snohomish, WA 98290
>             "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
>             ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
>             equal sharing of misery."
>             ..Winston Churchill...
>
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