[AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera recommendation

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Sat Aug 21 14:41:09 PDT 2021


I've been with the same independent agency for 30 years now. When our
agent heard I was having trouble with the claims adjuster, she went
right over his head to a VP, problem solved within 24 hours.

Mike M

On 8/21/2021 1:14 PM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
> He said if there was any issue with insurance paying for anything, he
> would take care of it. Made that statement to several people, and in
> front of the police. One driver was doing a lot of video with his
> phone and probably has it on record.
>
> Carl
>
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>     I bet his insurance won't pay either..
>
>     Cecil
>
>     On 8/21/2021 8:34 AM, Brad Loomis wrote:
>>     OUCH!
>>
>>     On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:14 AM Carl Szabelski
>>     <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Well, yesterday evening didn’t turn out to good for me. Wife
>>         sent me to the local church dinner event to get dinner since
>>         it was too muggy and she decided not to cook. On the way a
>>         driver pulling a large dump trailer filled with rock took out
>>         my windshield , as well as the windshield of over 14+ other
>>         drivers. I have several windshield and hood chips and dings,
>>         one “chip” the size of a tennis ball. Turns out his gate was
>>         bent up and even though it was fully closed, rock was falling
>>         out of the bottom. Didn’t help that he was doing 55 in a 35
>>         zone. Turned around and chased him for a couple of miles
>>         before I could get him to pull over. No sooner than he got
>>         out of his truck, several other drivers pulled up behind him.
>>         Long story short several local police cars and a sheriff’s
>>         car showed up and started taking damage reports from all the
>>         drivers who called, they must have been flooded with calls.
>>         The road was lined for several miles with police cars and
>>         drivers who pulled over where they got hit. One officer was
>>         tasked with taking pictures of the damage, as well as
>>         everybody’s license plate, drivers’s license, registration,
>>         and proof of insurance. Another officer was tasked with
>>         rolling everything into one large report instead of dozens of
>>         incident reports. With all those pictures, that’s going to be
>>         a large report.
>>
>>         Carl
>>
>>         On Friday, August 20, 2021, <k7jdj at aol.com
>>         <mailto:k7jdj at aol.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Many years ago my mother was in a McDonald's parking lot
>>             minor damage and she was charged with hit and run because
>>             she failed to give her diver license number to the other
>>             driver.  She thought all that was needed was the vehicle
>>             license plate, of course anyone could have been driving.
>>             State law requires you to give your driver license number
>>             to the other driver.  I not only give them my license,
>>             but take a picture of them holding it so it shows my
>>             license in their hand.
>>
>>             Gary
>>
>>             Renton, WA
>>
>>
>>             -----Original Message-----
>>             From: deanvp at att.net <mailto:deanvp at att.net>
>>             To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
>>             <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>             <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>>             Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2021 3:51 pm
>>             Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash
>>             Camera recommendation
>>
>>             Thanks every one for your comments and suggestions. I
>>             didn’t do certain things at the accident site I should
>>             have. But… let me tell you I was more than a little shook
>>             up. In those last few seconds while trying to miss him
>>             your mind goes into overdrive thinking terrible things.
>>               I think I did a damned good job of minimizing the
>>             damage both to his truck as well as mine. If I had rear
>>             ended him is suspect both trucks would have been totaled
>>             with the possibility of some injuries.  So having the
>>             sense under pressure to drive to the right to miss him
>>             and not hit the trees was pretty good for this old man.
>>             But…. I wasn’t thinking very good when it came time to
>>             get pictures of the scene and of various documents. I
>>             have a perfectly good Smart Phone but I resorted to hand
>>             writing all information.  There were two factors that
>>             confused things for me.  He left the scene of the
>>             accident for a short time so the actual accident scene
>>             had already been compromised and it was pitch black with
>>             no moon or the moon was covered with clouds. It was
>>             really dark.  So I resorted to a flashlight. Forgetting
>>             that my Android phone has a flash etc.  I’ll admit I was
>>             a bit shook up. My mind had contemplated something much
>>             worse. I wasn’t thinking 100% straight anymore. The
>>             strange part is I cannot find any evidence of the
>>             collision at the site in daylight. I cannot find any
>>             pieces of car parts, or plastic or anything.  I’m now
>>             thinking it has been stripped of any evidence.  I’ve been
>>             up and down the road at several driveways and cannot find
>>             a thing. That really bothers me.  I also am a bit
>>             confused about how ABS brakes work, I was on the brake
>>             pedal as hard as can be but I never left a skid mark on
>>             the asphalt road.  I know ABS is supposed to find the
>>             maximum traction when braking but as hard as I was on the
>>             brake pedal I don’t quite understand why is didn’t leave
>>             a mark.
>>             Dean VP
>>             Snohomish, WA 98290
>>             "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
>>             ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
>>             equal sharing of misery."
>>             ..Winston Churchill...
>>             *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique
>>             <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique>-tractor.com
>>             <http://tractor.com>> *On Behalf Of *deanvp at att.net
>>             <mailto:deanvp at att.net>
>>             *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:27 PM
>>             *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
>>             <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>             <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>>             *Subject:* Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front
>>             Dash Camera recommendation
>>
>>                 Sorry to change the subject but I have a little
>>                 challenge right now. My antique Tractor puller P/U
>>                 and I were in a little fender bender incident
>>                 recently which has become very complex since  the
>>                 other driver gave me all false data as to who he was,
>>                 where he lived, how to contact him  and whether he
>>                 was insured or not.  Other than that things are going
>>                 well. After about 5 days of online investigation my
>>                 wife and I tracked him down and have a working cell
>>                 phone number for him.  I’ve talked to him and we have
>>                 exchanged several text messages but I still don’t
>>                 know where he lives and who his insurance company is.
>>                 I gave him my insurance company verbally at the
>>                 accident but he seems to have forgotten it and now
>>                 repeatedly asks for who the company is. I refuse to
>>                 give it to him until I get a valid insurance company
>>                 name from him.  All he will talk about is getting his
>>                 truck fixed. And that the accident was my fault. To
>>                 add more stupid stuff to this whole fiasco he is now
>>                 claiming injury which is a crock of cow dung.
>>                 He backed out of a blind driveway onto the road
>>                 heading in the same direction as I was.  This was at
>>                 about 9:45PM and it was pitch black dark with no
>>                 street lights way out in the country.  I only noticed
>>                 the reflection of my headlights off of the side of
>>                 his black Dodge Pick Up. No tail lights, no back up
>>                 lights, no brake lights, no running lights, no lights
>>                 of any sort. I immediately slammed on the brakes and
>>                 started steering and braking to the right  of his
>>                 truck which was now close to being in the right
>>                 orientation to head down the road. I saw the eye of a
>>                 needle to try to get between the truck and the trees
>>                 at the driveway exit.  Well, I came to a stop right
>>                 after brushing the side of his truck and messing up
>>                 my left fender. I got close to threading the needle. 
>>                 Could have been a pretty violent rear-ender
>>                 otherwise.   But as you might expect he is now
>>                 blaming me and I hit him therefore I am at fault.  I
>>                 have no witnesses to prove what happened.  I’ve
>>                 informed my insurance Co and filed a collision report
>>                 with the Washington State Patrol. I’m pretty sure he
>>                 is an uninsured driver which is illegal in our state.
>>                 In my investigation tracking him down I have been
>>                 told he is involved in illicit  drugs and he DOES
>>                 have a criminal record..  So…. Due to this I am
>>                 looking for a dash camera to mount on our vehicles so
>>                 I don’t have to go through this situation of not
>>                 having proof again.
>>                 So I’m looking for Dash Camera suggestions for my
>>                 2003 Ford F250 and a 2016 Buick L:acrosse.  I usually
>>                 don’t buy the fancy stuff I just get the basics  in a
>>                 good product that are needed. Suggestions would be
>>                 appreciated???? I’ve had one recommended to me and
>>                 that is a Rove 4 but I know nothing about it yet.
>>                 Dean VP
>>                 Snohomish, WA 98290
>>                 "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
>>                 ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is
>>                 the equal sharing of misery."
>>                 ..Winston Churchill...
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