[AT] While we are OT on Refrigerators.
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Sat Jun 6 15:34:35 PDT 2020
Brad: My biggest gripe with the new refrigerants is they always require
more equipment, more money, and more licensing. Why cant they find
something that is affordable..
Cecil
On 6/6/2020 3:09 PM, bloomis at charter.net wrote:
>
> Out a hole, bad joint, corrosion. If he didn’t fix the leak then he’ll
> be adding more. I didn’t say it couldn’t be a small leak, but still a
> leak. If it is a split system it probably holds 4-6 lbs. of
> refrigerant. A domestic refrigerator holds less than a pound. I had a
> little 3’ pie case that had a leak that I never found. Every 3 months
> it would quit. The charge was 6oz of R-12. That is a tiny leak. So if
> pie cases, or any other refrigerant system had small leaks by design,
> refrigeration mechanics would never go home. It was at the Piedras
> Blancas Motel, which closed shortly thereafter. Forever.
> https://visitsansimeonca.com/what-to-do/piedras-blancas-motel/
>
> The reason the ozone layer and refrigerants came under scrutiny was
> primarily due to the automobile. Older cars were notorious to leak,
> all averaging 2.5lbs of R-12. Multiply that by the millions and that
> is a lot of R-12 into the atmosphere. I am not going to argue the
> science, just the outcome. That effected ALL refrigeration, A/C. When
> I first started in the trade when one needed to empty a system for
> repair you just blew it out into the atmosphere. Now recovery machines
> and a slew of refrigerants. I got out of commercial refrigeration as
> the plethora of refrigerants was overwhelming. You never knew what the
> last guy put in a system. Used to be three, R=12 for most medium temp/
> some low temp, R-22 for A/C, and R-502 for low temp. Simple and easy.
> I couldn’t work on a new A/C system as I’ve never worked with 410a.
> Totally different animal. Now it’s already being phased out. Long live
> ammonia! Easy, and enviro friendly. Mostly.
> Think of a pound of refrigerant like a pound of propane. Most of us
> know what that is. Not much. Liquid of course.
>
> Brad
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike M
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 06, 2020 12:16 PM
> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] While we are OT on Refrigerators.
>
> So an air conditioning system can't have a small leak that reduces the
> level of refrigerant over time? Then why did my son in law just have
> to add 2 lbs to our older AC unit? Where did it go?
>
> Mike M
>
> On 6/6/2020 2:59 PM, bradloomis at charter.net
> <mailto:bradloomis at charter.net> wrote:
>
> If it leaks it has a leak. No over time, no evaporating. A leak.
> Some repairable some not so much. Especially on a domestic
> refrigerator. Gets into cost of repair exceeds value of equipment.
> However that could cause excessive run time but the compartments
> would be warm, eventually hot. Dean indicated that temps were OK.
> Granted without a thermometer. Calibrated fingers? 😊
>
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Subject: Re: [AT] While we are OT on Refrigerators.
>
> I would be suspicious of your refrigerant level, it can leak over
> time.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 6/5/2020 9:14 PM, deanvp at att.net <mailto:deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
> > We have a GE side by side refrigerator, Model TFX27F, with all
> the bells and whistles Front Door Ice and Water dispenser, access
> door to refrigerator without opening the big door, etc etc. In
> fact we have a duplicate running in our kitchen right now. This
> one was used as extra freezer and refrigerator space for awhile
> when we moved here 20 years ago and then it was turned off and not
> used for at least 10 years. Well in my current need of making
> space in the garage I fired it back up to check everything to get
> it ready for sale. It freezes and the refrigerator compartment
> gets cool like it should, well I haven't put a thermometer in each
> compartment, but it appears to me to be working. Except..... it
> never quits running. Not quite true it runs about 95% of the
> time. Without having door opened or anything disturbed. We have
> had such good luck with this era of combination freezer
> refrigerator I thought it might be worth something to those just
> getting on their feet. I've cleaned the whole guts under the
> compartments and it really wasn't all that bad. The coils are
> clean as can be. I doubt this thing is worth more than $100
> running as it should but if I could find a cheap fix it might be
> worth spending $20 on a part or so.
>
> >
>
> > And to satisfy the list needs of being on topic. I need to make
> more room for Antique Tractor stuff I don't need. Any one have
> a test I can run or a particular part I can check? I'm pretty
> proficient electronics wise. Besides if I could get this running
> properly somebody might take this off my hands and I won't have to
> deal with getting rid of it. It would take my loader tractor to
> get it in to my P/U bed. Big heavy sucker. Help? PS: I don't
> remember the last time I threw something away but I do remember it
> was traumatic.! 😊
>
> >
>
> > Dean VP
>
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
>
>
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