[AT] tractor hauling truck

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon Feb 24 06:20:48 PST 2020


When I was working a the tractor shop in the 70's the boss started 
importing  Satoh tractors to fill the need for the worn out 8 & 9N 
fords.  We had exhausted the supply of them to restore in OK.    When I 
got out of college for the summer and started back to working we had one 
set of metric sockets and one set of metric wrenches that the warehouse 
in Dallas had supplied for us to use on t hose tractors.
Cecil

On 2/24/2020 5:19 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> By the time we tried metrication in the USA (around 1975-1982 per 
> Wikipedia) there was already a vast amount of imported goods here that 
> used metric fasteners, including cars and trucks and motorcycles and 
> tractors and machine tools and the list goes on and on.  Personally, I 
> had little Honda dirtbikes in the early 1970's, before the official 
> push, and I was busy collecting Craftsman metric sockets and combo 
> wrenches right alongside my growing SAE collection like it was no big 
> deal.  I cannot imagine a United States so insular that we could all 
> get along fine with nothing but SAE in our boxes.
>
> SO
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 7:50 PM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net 
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>     The only thing that metrication did was put a harbor freight store
>     in every medium sized town in the USA.  We were sold that lie that
>     we had to go metric so that we could ship things across the pond. 
>     It was the other way around....  All it did for me was to create a
>     duplication of wrenches and bolts.  If possible, when a metric
>     bolt or nut is stripped, it gets replaced with a SAE.  The metric
>     fasteners that first came over here were so soft they were not
>     even a grade 2..  Now I have an assortment of metric and SAE in
>     Grade 8, but it sure creates a lot of expensive inventory.  Not to
>     mention the British Pipe fasteners on a lot of the late model
>     tractors.
>     Just my $0.02
>     Cecil
>
>     On 2/23/2020 5:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>     Sprayed liners are far from new.  BMW built motorcycle engines
>>     with this technology back in the 1980's and riders have been know
>>     to put 300,000 and more miles on those bikes.  There was a time
>>     BMW car engines used a similar technology and developed a bad
>>     reputation.  It was actually due to high sulfur fuel, and for one
>>     thing our fuel in the USA now has far lower sulfur than back
>>     then, and for another thing the whole industry moved to a
>>     different alloy that is not susceptible.
>>
>>     Does anyone care what percentage of the fasteners are metric? 
>>     I've been wrenching domestic vehicles that have a mix of SAE and
>>     metric ever since we tried the metric system in the USA back in
>>     the 80's.  It's hardly an issue worth mention.
>>
>>     And several car companies in recent years have paid large fines
>>     for overstating fuel economy.  I'll go out on a limb here and
>>     guess that Ford has incentive to be very truthful with those numbers.
>>
>>
>>     SO
>>
>>     On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:35 AM James Peck
>>     <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Some updates on the 2019 F150 no options pickup I looked at.
>>>>         Base engine is a 3.3L aluminum block V6 with sprayed in
>>         cylinder liners. The Cleveland engine plant has an attached
>>         aluminum foundry.​
>>>>         Someone somewhere knows what percentage of the fasteners on
>>         the vehicle are metric. ​
>>>>         I suspect the combined highway mileage is a tad optimistic.​
>>>>         https://www.wardsauto.com/penton_modal/nojs/forward/50363/0
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