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    <p>When I was working a the tractor shop in the 70's the boss
      started importing  Satoh tractors to fill the need for the worn
      out 8 & 9N fords.  We had exhausted the supply of them to
      restore in OK.    When I got out of college for the summer and
      started back to working we had one set of metric sockets and one
      set of metric wrenches that the warehouse in Dallas had supplied
      for us to use on t hose tractors.  <br>
      Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2020 5:19 AM, Stephen Offiler
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">By the time we tried metrication in the USA (around
        1975-1982 per Wikipedia) there was already a vast amount of
        imported goods here that used metric fasteners, including cars
        and trucks and motorcycles and tractors and machine tools and
        the list goes on and on.  Personally, I had little Honda
        dirtbikes in the early 1970's, before the official push, and I
        was busy collecting Craftsman metric sockets and combo wrenches
        right alongside my growing SAE collection like it was no big
        deal.  I cannot imagine a United States so insular that we could
        all get along fine with nothing but SAE in our boxes.
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        <div>SO</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 7:50
          PM Cecil Bearden <<a href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p>The only thing that metrication did was put a harbor
              freight store in every medium sized town in the USA.  We
              were sold that lie that we had to go metric so that we
              could ship things across the pond.  It was the other way
              around....  All it did for me was to create a duplication
              of wrenches and bolts.  If possible, when a metric bolt or
              nut is stripped, it gets replaced with a SAE.  The metric
              fasteners that first came over here were so soft they were
              not even a grade 2..  Now I have an assortment of metric
              and SAE in Grade 8, but it sure creates a lot of expensive
              inventory.  Not to mention the British Pipe fasteners on a
              lot of the late model tractors.  <br>
              Just my $0.02<br>
              Cecil<br>
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            <div>On 2/23/2020 5:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Sprayed liners are far from new.  BMW built
                motorcycle engines with this technology back in the
                1980's and riders have been know to put 300,000 and more
                miles on those bikes.  There was a time BMW car engines
                used a similar technology and developed a bad
                reputation.  It was actually due to high sulfur fuel,
                and for one thing our fuel in the USA now has far lower
                sulfur than back then, and for another thing the whole
                industry moved to a different alloy that is not
                susceptible.
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                <div>Does anyone care what percentage of the fasteners
                  are metric?  I've been wrenching domestic vehicles
                  that have a mix of SAE and metric ever since we tried
                  the metric system in the USA back in the 80's.  It's
                  hardly an issue worth mention.</div>
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                <div>And several car companies in recent years have paid
                  large fines for overstating fuel economy.  I'll go out
                  on a limb here and guess that Ford has incentive to be
                  very truthful with those numbers.</div>
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                <div>SO</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 23, 2020
                  at 10:35 AM James Peck <<a
                    href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span><span>Some
                          updates on the 2019 F150 no options pickup I
                          looked at.<br>
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                        <div>Base engine is a 3.3L aluminum block V6
                          with sprayed in cylinder liners. The Cleveland
                          engine plant has an attached aluminum
                          foundry.​</div>
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                        <div>Someone somewhere knows what percentage of
                          the fasteners on the vehicle are metric. ​</div>
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                        <div>I suspect the combined highway mileage is a
                          tad optimistic.​</div>
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