[AT] Oliver's decline was Nice Tractor Day

[Gilbert Schwartz]

John, you have this problem exactly right. Allis built a fine machine with a rear end that could not stand turning up the pump. Turning the engine up to 110- 120 hp quickly shelled out the rear end. They tried to fix the problem by installing larger axles and internal gearing/bearings but it was too late. The damage was already done.
Gil

> On November 13, 2019 at 3:19 PM John Slavin <chaunceyjb at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>     I would agree with Jason on this one.  Although I don’t know anything about the financials or sales numbers, during the period before the acquisition, back when Allis was building the 190XTs, there were a lot of farmers in my area that had problems behind the engine.  I don’t remember if it was transmissions or rear ends.  I suspect it was due people turning up the horsepower to pull ever larger tillage equipment, but in any event a whole lot of Allis farmers I knew went green or red after that fiasco.  The new series after that seemed to be quite a bit better, but the market share had already taken a hit, I suspect.
> 
>     John S.
> 
> 
> 
>         > > Allis had one foot in the grave before Deutz signed on.
> > 
> >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:37 AM Cecil Bearden < crbearden at copper.net mailto:crbearden at copper.net > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >             > > > Sounds like the Deutz-Allis screwup.   Allis Chalmers was into a lot
> > >             more than farm equipment, and built very reliable products. Deutz ruined
> > >             it...
> > >             Cecil
> > > 
> > >         > > 
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