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John, you have this problem exactly right. Allis built a fine machine with a rear end that could not stand turning up the pump. Turning the engine up to 110- 120 hp quickly shelled out the rear end. They tried to fix the problem by installing larger axles and internal gearing/bearings but it was too late. The damage was already done.
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On November 13, 2019 at 3:19 PM John Slavin <chaunceyjb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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I would agree with Jason on this one. Although I don’t know anything about the financials or sales numbers, during the period before the acquisition, back when Allis was building the 190XTs, there were a lot of farmers in my area that had problems behind the engine. I don’t remember if it was transmissions or rear ends. I suspect it was due people turning up the horsepower to pull ever larger tillage equipment, but in any event a whole lot of Allis farmers I knew went green or red after that fiasco. The new series after that seemed to be quite a bit better, but the market share had already taken a hit, I suspect.
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<span class="" style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;">Allis had one foot in the grave before Deutz signed on.</span>
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Sounds like the Deutz-Allis screwup. Allis Chalmers was into a lot
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