[AT] Oliver's decline was Nice Tractor Day

John Slavin chaunceyjb at sbcglobal.net
Wed Nov 13 13:19:56 PST 2019


I would agree with Jason on this one.  Although I don’t know anything about the financials or sales numbers, during the period before the acquisition, back when Allis was building the 190XTs, there were a lot of farmers in my area that had problems behind the engine.  I don’t remember if it was transmissions or rear ends.  I suspect it was due people turning up the horsepower to pull ever larger tillage equipment, but in any event a whole lot of Allis farmers I knew went green or red after that fiasco.  The new series after that seemed to be quite a bit better, but the market share had already taken a hit, I suspect.

John S.


> Allis had one foot in the grave before Deutz signed on.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:37 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like the Deutz-Allis screwup.   Allis Chalmers was into a lot
>> more than farm equipment, and built very reliable products. Deutz ruined
>> it...
>> Cecil
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