[AT] OT Computers and programs

[Cecil Bearden]

I use Gstar Cad.  It was about $400 and serviced by an 80yr old fellow 
in New Jersey.  He speaks english!!  The program has served me very well 
drawing most all Civil engineering projects I do.  I mostly use 2D, but 
when I get into contours I have finally figured out how to redraw 3d 
contour lines so we can figure yardage.  I got the version with the 
dongle that plugs into the back of my computer.  I can load it on as 
many computers as  want but only the one with the dongle will run it.  I 
had autocad 2000 and got a virus in the computer and lost my autocad.  
That is when I found out they had switched to subscription.  No way I 
can afford the subscription..
Cecil

On 7/27/2019 10:56 AM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
> James,
>
> I was able to do a basic ProE course a few years ago, and had the 
> blessing of being able to play with it a little to draw some simple 
> tank. I was high enough up in management that I never was able to 
> develop any proficiency with it. Now that I retired, I ended up with a 
> So9lid Works 2014 program on my laptop, and I need to take thee time 
> to do tutorials and then start drawing some projects I want to see our 
> company develop. Takes time and motivation to stay with it.
> For simple stuff I use AutoCAD Lt. it works fine for 2D drawings.
> My son used one of the ACAD clones for some stuff, but it seems like 
> it lasts so long and then something happens where it no longer works. 
> Many times it may be computer crashed and then you loose the program 
> with the crashed computer.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 27, 2019, at 9:14 AM, James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> I have a free version of DraftSight on this laptop. DraftSight was a 
>> brilliant move by the folks that own SolidWorks to put a big hurt in 
>> Autodesk. A couple of years ago I used DraftSight to redraw a very 
>> large single surviving paper copy of the hydraulic circuit of a 1200 
>> ton hydraulic press. The file was a dwg file and could be opened and 
>> edited with AutoCAD.  I used my laptop because I did not have admin 
>> privileges to load DraftSight on my work desktop. I was able to store 
>> the resulting  file on the server.
>>
>> My DraftSight will now operate only when I am online. The official 
>> notice is that the free versions will quit operating in 2020.
>>
>> I do own AutoCAD 2000, the last version you can own. I run it on a 
>> home desktop under windows 7 XPMODE.. It will not load under Windows 
>> 10. That is inconvenient.
>>
>> [James Peck] I registered for a ProE class at El Paso Community 
>> College to start in early 2000. When I got to the first class, it was 
>> cancelled due to low enrollment.
>>
>> *[*Stephen Offiler] I got into 3D CAD in 1997 with Parametric 
>> Technologies Corp's Pro/Engineer software.  It was (disclaimer, I am 
>> working from 21-year old memories) originally developed to run on 
>> Unix workstations.  It was ported to run under Windows NT, which 
>> wasn't exactly the same beast as the consumer-flavored versions of 
>> Windows at that time.  Pro/E's user interface suffered from simply 
>> being not-Windows, just not as familiar and intuitive - no where 
>> close in fact.  It was a lot of work to get proficient with Pro/E.  
>> But at that time my boss was playing a lot of golf with the local 
>> Solidworks VAR (value-added reseller, basically the local rep).  Once 
>> we were a few years deep into Pro/E, with a growing database of new 
>> projects developed under Pro/E plus a lot of conversion from legacy 
>> 2D CAD as well as even older manual drawings - we were in DEEP and I 
>> resisted the change mightily.  I lost, of course.  We adopted 
>> Solidworks in 2002-3, and never looked back.  The UI was fully 
>> Windows-compliant and the learning curve was very smooth.  I still 
>> run Solidworks pretty much daily and I would highly recommend it.
>>
>>     .
>>
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