[AT] Off topic but tractor related

Al Jones farmallsupera at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 8 20:24:34 PDT 2010


Parrott Brothers in downtown Kinston.

Al

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From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:48 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related

> Thanks.  There are so many northern retirees around here now that our farm
> supply is more likely to have Swiss Chard than field peas.  If I get down
> that way I'll check them out.  I guess the guys over around Kinston 
> probably
> have them if I can remember where a farm supply is over there.
>
>
>
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> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:34 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> Onslow Feed & Grain in Richlands should have several varieties.  Southern
>> States in Wallace (if you want to drive that far) should have some too.
>>
>> Al
>>
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>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:13 PM
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>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>
>>> I was thinking they were the same or similar to a crowder pea.  I know
>>> the
>>> ones that grew volunteer on our farm grew on a dead sandhill with no
>>> fertilizer and very little water.  The only other thing that would grow
>>> untended on that hill was common Bermuda grass.   If I remember right 
>>> the
>>> hulls on those were kind of yellowish and pinkish brown.  You'd be
>>> surprised
>>> at the things we can no longer get even in the farm supply stores around
>>> here Al.  I guess I'll have to ride over to Duplin Co or somewhere to
>>> find
>>> some.
>>>
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>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:55 PM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>
>>>> Pink eye purple hull is a good one.  A GOOD farm supply/feed/garden
>>>> center
>>>> should have several.  Believe brown crowder is another one.  My dad
>>>> plants
>>>> the pinkeye/purple hull and another pea that is black.  I can't 
>>>> remember
>>>> the
>>>> name of it though.  They're ALL good to me, boiled fresh in a big pot
>>>> with
>>>> some country ham or bacon in them!
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but
>>>>>> when the
>>>>>> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and
>>>>>> then later
>>>>>> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went
>>>>>> away.  I
>>>>>> don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for
>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck
>>>>>>>> thermometer
>>>>>>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the
>>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I
>>>>>>>> realize
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15
>>>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover
>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter
>>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>>> cooked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my
>>>>>>>>> winter
>>>>>>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in
>>>>>>>>> addition I
>>>>>>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest
>>>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>>>>>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make
>>>>>>>>> sure the
>>>>>>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid
>>>>>>>>> and by
>>>>>>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or
>>>>>>>>>> mustard
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified
>>>>>>>>>> potato
>>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them
>>>>>>>>>> with.   I
>>>>>>>>>> planted
>>>>>>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.
>>>>>>>>>> The tops
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The
>>>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>>>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger
>>>>>>>>>> than a
>>>>>>>>>> golf
>>>>>>>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops 
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> dying
>>>>>>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the
>>>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of
>>>>>>>>>> the rest
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>>>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>>>>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a
>>>>>>>>>> good spot
>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to
>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> tend
>>>>>>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to
>>>>>>>>>> hone my
>>>>>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than
>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber
>>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some
>>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>>>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter
>>>>>>>>>>> squash),
>>>>>>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other
>>>>>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room
>>>>>>>>>>> why not?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of
>>>>>>>>>>>> coastal NC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an
>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden
>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a
>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a
>>>>>>>>>>>> disappointment
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got
>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my
>>>>>>>>>>>> onions that
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late
>>>>>>>>>>>> summer
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing
>>>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>> potatoes
>>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they
>>>>>>>>>>>> would do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and
>>>>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans
>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference
>>>>>>>>>>>> online to
>>>>>>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was a
>>>>>>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It 
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam
>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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