[AT] Off topic but tractor related

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Jul 9 03:39:09 PDT 2010 

Thanks Al.    What street is that on?  I was thinking there was a place 
downtown there somewhere.  Is it over there close to Lenoir Oxygen?

Charlie

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From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:24 PM
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> Parrott Brothers in downtown Kinston.
>
> Al
>
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> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:48 PM
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>
>> Thanks.  There are so many northern retirees around here now that our 
>> farm
>> supply is more likely to have Swiss Chard than field peas.  If I get down
>> that way I'll check them out.  I guess the guys over around Kinston
>> probably
>> have them if I can remember where a farm supply is over there.
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:34 PM
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>>
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> Onslow Feed & Grain in Richlands should have several varieties. 
>>> Southern
>>> States in Wallace (if you want to drive that far) should have some too.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
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>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:13 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>
>>>> I was thinking they were the same or similar to a crowder pea.  I know
>>>> the
>>>> ones that grew volunteer on our farm grew on a dead sandhill with no
>>>> fertilizer and very little water.  The only other thing that would grow
>>>> untended on that hill was common Bermuda grass.   If I remember right
>>>> the
>>>> hulls on those were kind of yellowish and pinkish brown.  You'd be
>>>> surprised
>>>> at the things we can no longer get even in the farm supply stores 
>>>> around
>>>> here Al.  I guess I'll have to ride over to Duplin Co or somewhere to
>>>> find
>>>> some.
>>>>
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>>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:55 PM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
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>>>>> Pink eye purple hull is a good one.  A GOOD farm supply/feed/garden
>>>>> center
>>>>> should have several.  Believe brown crowder is another one.  My dad
>>>>> plants
>>>>> the pinkeye/purple hull and another pea that is black.  I can't
>>>>> remember
>>>>> the
>>>>> name of it though.  They're ALL good to me, boiled fresh in a big pot
>>>>> with
>>>>> some country ham or bacon in them!
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They
>>>>>>> used to
>>>>>>> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but
>>>>>>> when the
>>>>>>> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and
>>>>>>> then later
>>>>>>> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went
>>>>>>> away.  I
>>>>>>> don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for
>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop 
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck
>>>>>>>>> thermometer
>>>>>>>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the
>>>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I
>>>>>>>>> realize
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15
>>>>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the 
>>>>>>>>> bitter
>>>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>>>> cooked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my
>>>>>>>>>> winter
>>>>>>>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in
>>>>>>>>>> addition I
>>>>>>>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest
>>>>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>>>>>>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make
>>>>>>>>>> sure the
>>>>>>>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid
>>>>>>>>>> and by
>>>>>>>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or
>>>>>>>>>>> mustard
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified
>>>>>>>>>>> potato
>>>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them
>>>>>>>>>>> with.   I
>>>>>>>>>>> planted
>>>>>>>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.
>>>>>>>>>>> The tops
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger
>>>>>>>>>>> than a
>>>>>>>>>>> golf
>>>>>>>>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> dying
>>>>>>>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the
>>>>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of
>>>>>>>>>>> the rest
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>>>>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a
>>>>>>>>>>> good spot
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>> tend
>>>>>>>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> hone my
>>>>>>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than
>>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber
>>>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some
>>>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>>>>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter
>>>>>>>>>>>> squash),
>>>>>>>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room
>>>>>>>>>>>> why not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coastal NC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappointment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> onions that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late
>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> potatoes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference
>>>>>>>>>>>>> online to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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