[AT] Off topic but tractor related

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Jul 8 19:48:21 PDT 2010 

Thanks.  There are so many northern retirees around here now that our farm 
supply is more likely to have Swiss Chard than field peas.  If I get down 
that way I'll check them out.  I guess the guys over around Kinston probably 
have them if I can remember where a farm supply is over there.



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From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:34 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related

> Charlie,
>
> Onslow Feed & Grain in Richlands should have several varieties.  Southern
> States in Wallace (if you want to drive that far) should have some too.
>
> Al
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>
>> I was thinking they were the same or similar to a crowder pea.  I know 
>> the
>> ones that grew volunteer on our farm grew on a dead sandhill with no
>> fertilizer and very little water.  The only other thing that would grow
>> untended on that hill was common Bermuda grass.   If I remember right the
>> hulls on those were kind of yellowish and pinkish brown.  You'd be
>> surprised
>> at the things we can no longer get even in the farm supply stores around
>> here Al.  I guess I'll have to ride over to Duplin Co or somewhere to 
>> find
>> some.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:55 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>
>>> Pink eye purple hull is a good one.  A GOOD farm supply/feed/garden
>>> center
>>> should have several.  Believe brown crowder is another one.  My dad
>>> plants
>>> the pinkeye/purple hull and another pea that is black.  I can't remember
>>> the
>>> name of it though.  They're ALL good to me, boiled fresh in a big pot
>>> with
>>> some country ham or bacon in them!
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They
>>>>> used to
>>>>> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but
>>>>> when the
>>>>> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and
>>>>> then later
>>>>> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went
>>>>> away.  I
>>>>> don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for
>>>>> them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck
>>>>>>> thermometer
>>>>>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the
>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I
>>>>>>> realize
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15
>>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter
>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>> cooked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my
>>>>>>>> winter
>>>>>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in
>>>>>>>> addition I
>>>>>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest
>>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>>>>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make
>>>>>>>> sure the
>>>>>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid
>>>>>>>> and by
>>>>>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or
>>>>>>>>> mustard
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified
>>>>>>>>> potato
>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them
>>>>>>>>> with.   I
>>>>>>>>> planted
>>>>>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.
>>>>>>>>> The tops
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The
>>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger
>>>>>>>>> than a
>>>>>>>>> golf
>>>>>>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops were
>>>>>>>>> dying
>>>>>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the
>>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of
>>>>>>>>> the rest
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>>>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a
>>>>>>>>> good spot
>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> tend
>>>>>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to
>>>>>>>>> hone my
>>>>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than
>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber
>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some
>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter
>>>>>>>>>> squash),
>>>>>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other
>>>>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room
>>>>>>>>>> why not?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so
>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of
>>>>>>>>>>> coastal NC.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an
>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden
>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a
>>>>>>>>>>> disappointment
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my
>>>>>>>>>>> onions that
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late
>>>>>>>>>>> summer
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing
>>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet
>>>>>>>>>>> potatoes
>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they
>>>>>>>>>>> would do.
>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and
>>>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans
>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference
>>>>>>>>>>> online to
>>>>>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When
>>>>>>>>>>> I was a
>>>>>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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