[AT] Off topic but tractor related

Al Jones farmallsupera at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 8 19:34:26 PDT 2010 

Charlie,

Onslow Feed & Grain in Richlands should have several varieties.  Southern 
States in Wallace (if you want to drive that far) should have some too.

Al

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From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:13 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related

> I was thinking they were the same or similar to a crowder pea.  I know the
> ones that grew volunteer on our farm grew on a dead sandhill with no
> fertilizer and very little water.  The only other thing that would grow
> untended on that hill was common Bermuda grass.   If I remember right the
> hulls on those were kind of yellowish and pinkish brown.  You'd be 
> surprised
> at the things we can no longer get even in the farm supply stores around
> here Al.  I guess I'll have to ride over to Duplin Co or somewhere to find
> some.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:55 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>
>> Pink eye purple hull is a good one.  A GOOD farm supply/feed/garden 
>> center
>> should have several.  Believe brown crowder is another one.  My dad 
>> plants
>> the pinkeye/purple hull and another pea that is black.  I can't remember
>> the
>> name of it though.  They're ALL good to me, boiled fresh in a big pot 
>> with
>> some country ham or bacon in them!
>>
>> Al
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They
>>>> used to
>>>> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but
>>>> when the
>>>> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and
>>>> then later
>>>> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went
>>>> away.  I
>>>> don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>
>>>>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>
>>>>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck
>>>>>> thermometer
>>>>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the
>>>>>> engine
>>>>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I
>>>>>> realize
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15
>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter
>>>>>> greens
>>>>>> cooked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my
>>>>>>> winter
>>>>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in
>>>>>>> addition I
>>>>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest
>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>>>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make
>>>>>>> sure the
>>>>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid
>>>>>>> and by
>>>>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or
>>>>>>>> mustard
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified
>>>>>>>> potato
>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them
>>>>>>>> with.   I
>>>>>>>> planted
>>>>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.
>>>>>>>> The tops
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The
>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger
>>>>>>>> than a
>>>>>>>> golf
>>>>>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops were
>>>>>>>> dying
>>>>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the
>>>>>>>> onions
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of
>>>>>>>> the rest
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a
>>>>>>>> good spot
>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> tend
>>>>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to
>>>>>>>> hone my
>>>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than
>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber
>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some
>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter
>>>>>>>>> squash),
>>>>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other
>>>>>>>>> greens
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room
>>>>>>>>> why not?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so
>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of
>>>>>>>>>> coastal NC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an
>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden
>>>>>>>>>> beyond a
>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a
>>>>>>>>>> disappointment
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my
>>>>>>>>>> onions that
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late
>>>>>>>>>> summer
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing
>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet
>>>>>>>>>> potatoes
>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they
>>>>>>>>>> would do.
>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and
>>>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference
>>>>>>>>>> online to
>>>>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When
>>>>>>>>>> I was a
>>>>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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