[AT] Dealing with landlords when needing rented land
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Tue May 17 22:49:19 PDT 2022
That is what happens when folks can't make a living on the land, they
sell it out. If they did not grow up on it and feel like they belong,
then they don't care if it is gone. My old friend who sharecrops the
farm down south deeded 10 acres of his place to his daughter. Her 3rd
husband got on drugs and they divorced and now she sold the place and
found her another boyfriend. My old buddy just lost a major chunk of
his home place. Land there, over 40 miles from OKC is selling for
$2000/acre. Here it is selling for over $7000 per acre. Honestly that
is too expensive to live on.
Cecil
On 5/18/2022 12:19 AM, Mogrits wrote:
> Our county is booming. We live in the last undeveloped corner of it.
> It's been family farms forever, admittedly small in the 100-200 acre
> range, some larger via lease agreements etc for beef, one dairy, and
> feed production. We are living on a small carveout from my family's
> original land grant and have a small almost contiguous parcel from the
> same piece. Cousins etc have carved it up and hold some and sold other
> pieces. Two cousins just listed and sold 40 acres for almost 15k/acre
> without the courtesy of a phone call before listing it. They don't
> care, don't live instate and the pines aren't big enough to cut yet.
> It's happening all around us.
>
> Some of us looked into incorporating a town to try a form of density
> management but alas, our State law requires a population level we
> don't meet yet. I'll be watching these numbers climb and hopefully we
> can do it once we reach "critical mass", which is 300 people/square
> mile. I'm a big property rights guy but damn all these people with no
> connection to this land and this place are working on me.
>
> All politics aside I just want to be left alone, and never thought I'd
> turn into my Grandfather, much less my father. I also worry for my
> Grandchildren and am sad they will miss out on the country I knew.
> Part of getting old I guess.
>
> Warren
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:41 PM Carl Szabelski
> <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> In order to be considered a Centennial Farm, the farm has to be in
> your family for the required duration, not that it’s been a farm
> for all that time under different families. It also has to have
> been a working farm for that duration, not just idle land. Also,
> it can be developed if there are no family members interested in
> doing any further farming and it is sold out of the family, like
> to a developer. You have to apply for the Centennial Farm sign
> that is placed on the property and prove that the farm has been
> worked by the family all the time. Not a difficult process, just
> paperwork and family history information. The sign is just a
> status symbol to inspire continued farming by local families. It
> can even be customized to include your family name. You can even
> apply for Sesquicentennial and Bicentennial status if your family
> has had the farm for the required time. The farm only has to be 10
> acres.
>
> Carl
>
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022, Mark Johnson
> <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net
> <mailto:markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>> wrote:
>
> One o' these days, development folks are going to realize that
> it doesn't matter if you have a nice house and a nearby strip
> mall if you don't have anything to eat.
>
> Mark J
>
> (shared owner of 2 Indiana farms, mostly planted in trees but
> with about 100 acres of croppable land)
>
> On 5/14/2022 10:27 PM, Mike M wrote:
>> In Michigan, you can elect to have your long term farm in to
>> a "Centennial Farm" it can never be developed and must
>> always be be farmed. You would receive a huge property tax
>> break, but could never be developed .
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/2022 4:35 PM, ustonThomas Mehrkam wrote:
>>> Yep. I am on my grandfather's farm in Waller. Retired moved
>>> house on the place. Built a 48x75 shop. Well septic power.
>>>
>>> Running cattle and producing Hay. Now the land around me is
>>> being sold and developed. 1200 acres here 2400 acres there
>>> both residential and commercial. All roads under construction.
>>>
>>> 😫
>>>
>>> Houston is moving to Waller. 😠
>>>
>>> Should have Retired 200 miles out instead of only 60. Land
>>> is selling for $7500 per acre.
>>>
>>> Probably Californians 👿
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 1:55 PM, Cecil Bearden
>>> <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>> This just a rant, but I gotta spill it..
>>> > I just found my landlords daughter mowing the best
>>> area on the lease I
>>> > have so she can run her horses on it. This 6 acre spot
>>> last year
>>> > produced 60 bales. I had fertilized it heavily for
>>> the last 3
>>> > years. It is on the 110 acres I have leased under
>>> written contract
>>> > which specifies that any changes have to be made in
>>> writing 30 days in
>>> > advance. I am supposed to roll over because she is
>>> losing her place
>>> > for her horses after she moved here from texas. She
>>> thinks she is
>>> > going to make enough giving riding lessons to pay for
>>> the upkeep of
>>> > these 3 horses. I have to lease hay ground to have
>>> enough hay for my
>>> > cattle. Due to the drought here, I have sold a bunch
>>> and need to sell
>>> > 1/2 of what is left. Now, I lose another 5 acres or
>>> more, fencing has
>>> > not been put up yet. For some worthless horses. The
>>> loss of the area
>>> > is going to cost the equivalent of 30 bales of hay.
>>> Last year hay was
>>> > $50/bale. It will probably be $75 this year.
>>>
>>> I have another 30 acres rented that adjoins my farm to
>>> the south. The
>>> landowner decided to dump 2 truckloads of dirt on one of
>>> the better
>>> producing areas so his kids could have something to
>>> shoot 22 rifles
>>> into. Not concerned that my cattle were only 300 ft
>>> from the fence
>>> line in the line of fire. I don't think they ever used
>>> the pile, but it
>>> became a source of weeds for 300 ft north of that pile.
>>>
>>> I lost a 160 acre field 3 years ago when a big farmer
>>> decided he wanted
>>> it and accused me of not taking care of the place. It
>>> turned out that
>>> the heir I was dealing with was accepting payment and
>>> not sharing with
>>> the other heirs. I lost the field and picked up the
>>> one that was being
>>> mowed today. The loss of the 160 was the very reason I
>>> wanted a
>>> written contract on any future rentals. Now I was
>>> informed that since
>>> this 110 acres is owned by 2 brothers they are surveying
>>> it next week to
>>> split it up between their heirs. Land here is going for
>>> over $5000/acre
>>> in large parcels. The heirs won't be able to list it
>>> for sale fast enough.
>>>
>>> Unless I move 70 miles to the south on the farm that has
>>> been rented out
>>> for over 20 years, my farming and cattle raising days
>>> are over. By
>>> the time I could get things sold to move this boom will
>>> be gone....
>>>
>>> We have so many people moving in here from the crazy
>>> states I don't even
>>> recognize my state any more....
>>>
>>> Cecil in OK
>>>
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