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<p>That is what happens when folks can't make a living on the land,
they sell it out. If they did not grow up on it and feel like
they belong, then they don't care if it is gone. My old friend
who sharecrops the farm down south deeded 10 acres of his place
to his daughter. Her 3rd husband got on drugs and they divorced
and now she sold the place and found her another boyfriend. My
old buddy just lost a major chunk of his home place. Land there,
over 40 miles from OKC is selling for $2000/acre. Here it is
selling for over $7000 per acre. Honestly that is too expensive
to live on. <br>
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<p>Cecil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/18/2022 12:19 AM, Mogrits wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Our county is booming. We live in the last
undeveloped corner of it. It's been family farms forever,
admittedly small in the 100-200 acre range, some larger via
lease agreements etc for beef, one dairy, and feed production.
We are living on a small carveout from my family's original land
grant and have a small almost contiguous parcel from the same
piece. Cousins etc have carved it up and hold some and sold
other pieces. Two cousins just listed and sold 40 acres for
almost 15k/acre without the courtesy of a phone call before
listing it. They don't care, don't live instate and the pines
aren't big enough to cut yet. It's happening all around us.
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<div>Some of us looked into incorporating a town to try a form
of density management but alas, our State law requires a
population level we don't meet yet. I'll be watching these
numbers climb and hopefully we can do it once we reach
"critical mass", which is 300 people/square mile. I'm a big
property rights guy but damn all these people with no
connection to this land and this place are working on me.</div>
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<div>All politics aside I just want to be left alone, and never
thought I'd turn into my Grandfather, much less my father. I
also worry for my Grandchildren and am sad they will miss out
on the country I knew. Part of getting old I guess.</div>
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<div>Warren</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:41
PM Carl Szabelski <<a href="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com"
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<div>In order to be considered a Centennial Farm, the farm has
to be in your family for the required duration, not that
it’s been a farm for all that time under different families.
It also has to have been a working farm for that duration,
not just idle land. Also, it can be developed if there are
no family members interested in doing any further farming
and it is sold out of the family, like to a developer. You
have to apply for the Centennial Farm sign that is placed on
the property and prove that the farm has been worked by the
family all the time. Not a difficult process, just paperwork
and family history information. The sign is just a status
symbol to inspire continued farming by local families. It
can even be customized to include your family name. You can
even apply for Sesquicentennial and Bicentennial status if
your family has had the farm for the required time. The farm
only has to be 10 acres.</div>
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<div>Carl<br>
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On Sunday, May 15, 2022, Mark Johnson <<a
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<p>One o' these days, development folks are going to
realize that it doesn't matter if you have a nice
house and a nearby strip mall if you don't have
anything to eat.</p>
<p>Mark J</p>
<p>(shared owner of 2 Indiana farms, mostly planted in
trees but with about 100 acres of croppable land)<br>
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<div>On 5/14/2022 10:27 PM, Mike M wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> In Michigan, you can elect to
have your long term farm in to a "Centennial Farm" it
can never be developed and must always be be farmed.
You would receive a huge property tax break, but could
never be developed .<br>
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Mike M<br>
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<div>On 5/14/2022 4:35 PM, ustonThomas Mehrkam wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Yep. I am on my grandfather's
farm in Waller. Retired moved house on the place.
Built a 48x75 shop. Well septic power.
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<div>Running cattle and producing Hay. Now the land
around me is being sold and developed. 1200 acres
here 2400 acres there both residential and
commercial. All roads under construction.</div>
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<div>😫</div>
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<div>Houston is moving to Waller. 😠</div>
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<div>Should have Retired 200 miles out instead of
only 60. Land is selling for $7500 per acre. </div>
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20px;margin:10px 0px 0px;border-left:1px solid
rgb(109,0,246)"> This just a rant, but I gotta
spill it..<br clear="none">
> I just found my landlords daughter mowing
the best area on the lease I <br clear="none">
> have so she can run her horses on it.
This 6 acre spot last year <br clear="none">
> produced 60 bales. I had fertilized it
heavily for the last 3 <br clear="none">
> years. It is on the 110 acres I have
leased under written contract <br
clear="none">
> which specifies that any changes have to
be made in writing 30 days in <br
clear="none">
> advance. I am supposed to roll over
because she is losing her place <br
clear="none">
> for her horses after she moved here from
texas. She thinks she is <br clear="none">
> going to make enough giving riding
lessons to pay for the upkeep of <br
clear="none">
> these 3 horses. I have to lease hay
ground to have enough hay for my <br
clear="none">
> cattle. Due to the drought here, I have
sold a bunch and need to sell <br
clear="none">
> 1/2 of what is left. Now, I lose another
5 acres or more, fencing has <br clear="none">
> not been put up yet. For some worthless
horses. The loss of the area <br
clear="none">
> is going to cost the equivalent of 30
bales of hay. Last year hay was <br
clear="none">
> $50/bale. It will probably be $75 this
year.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I have another 30 acres rented that adjoins my
farm to the south. The <br clear="none">
landowner decided to dump 2 truckloads of dirt
on one of the better <br clear="none">
producing areas so his kids could have
something to shoot 22 rifles <br clear="none">
into. Not concerned that my cattle were only
300 ft from the fence <br clear="none">
line in the line of fire. I don't think they
ever used the pile, but it <br clear="none">
became a source of weeds for 300 ft north of
that pile.<br clear="none">
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I lost a 160 acre field 3 years ago when a big
farmer decided he wanted <br clear="none">
it and accused me of not taking care of the
place. It turned out that <br clear="none">
the heir I was dealing with was accepting
payment and not sharing with <br clear="none">
the other heirs. I lost the field and picked
up the one that was being <br clear="none">
mowed today. The loss of the 160 was the
very reason I wanted a <br clear="none">
written contract on any future rentals. Now I
was informed that since <br clear="none">
this 110 acres is owned by 2 brothers they are
surveying it next week to <br clear="none">
split it up between their heirs. Land here is
going for over $5000/acre <br clear="none">
in large parcels. The heirs won't be able to
list it for sale fast enough.<br clear="none">
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Unless I move 70 miles to the south on the
farm that has been rented out <br
clear="none">
for over 20 years, my farming and cattle
raising days are over. By <br clear="none">
the time I could get things sold to move this
boom will be gone....<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
We have so many people moving in here from the
crazy states I don't even <br clear="none">
recognize my state any more....<br
clear="none">
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Cecil in OK
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