[AT] New Case/IH 5088

[John Hall]

  Spencer, my dad retired from an IH dealer back in 91. During the 80's 
IH sent out a counter display to prove their oil would tolerate water in 
the oil better than the competition. The display consisted of 4 test 
tubes that you filled with a measured amount of hydraulic oil of your 
choosing. Then you added a measured amount of water. Shook it all up and 
let it sit. The IH performed the best, Deere (supplied from our farm 
shop) did second. Third and fourth were Quaker State and some other 
brand. I can't tell you if the oil and water mixed or if the additives 
in the HyTran created the wax like substance you see when you open up a 
machine that has had nothing but Hy-tran and find these wax balls 
deposited in the belly of the beast. Anyway, this was the water test 
from IH.

The only other concern I know of is deteriorating the brake linings. 
I've heard of it happening locally, guy being a tightwad and dumping in 
cheap oil only to have it eat up the linings. Actually think I've heard 
of this on an IH and a Deere.

When we farmed for real, Green tractors got HyGard, Red tractors got 
HyTran, everything got the same Phillips engine oil.

These days, there are practically NO IH dealers in NC (so picking up 5 
gallons of oil is a 1/2 day event) and they think their oil is squeezed 
from gold. I buy Deere HyGard (for 2/3 the price) and dump it in 
everything with no complaints. I like to piss off the Cub Cadet crowd by 
doing so. They forget that the hydrostatic units in older Cadets are the 
same ones in older Deeres--both made by Sunstrand, just different 
mounting brackets/linkages. So far all my yellow lawnmowers like that 
green oil just fine.

Anyway, for my little farming operation here at Cedar Lane Farm, its 
Hygard for hydraulics, Dello for engine oil, and ethanol free gas.

John Hall




On 7/22/2022 12:20 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> Having dealt with this a few times before from  everything from a small little hydrostatic cub cadet riding lawnmower to some bigger tractors I can tell you that everything, everybody, and all sources of information are purely anecdotal evidence. I cannot find anybody that can tell me with a straight face that they’ve actually done the experiment, have the data and conclusively prove that you must use HyTran or that it’s OK to use something else.
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> I feel for you. My decision was always a $20-$50 decision and I always wimped out and used HyTran.  At over $1K I’d be willing to do the experiment with the cheaper fluids.
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