[AT] Backpack leaf blower

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sat Dec 4 16:35:16 PST 2021


Yep..  My old Kawasaki 360 Prairie worked great until the oil leaked out 
of the oil cooler and it was ran a few minutes..

Cecil

On 12/4/2021 1:46 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Seems what you need here Cecil is the antique-tractor equivalent of a 
> modern ATV!
>
> Steve O.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:49 PM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net 
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>     Then there is the higher ticket items like the ATV I need to be
>     mobile.   If anything goes wrong it has to go back to the dealer. 
>     All the test equipment is proprietary to the ATV market, and the
>     brand.  I think I am going to get the ones I have cleaned up and
>     back together and trade them in on a new Polaris and then trade
>     every 2 to 3 years.  Either you pay for it in trade in or in
>     dealer service...  I will keep the one carbureted one I have.  It
>     only has an electric choke.
>
>     Cecil
>
>     On 12/4/2021 12:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>     I agree Steve, I need the blower know, even if a piston was and
>>     cylinder were available, it would take forever to get one. Most
>>     things made today with a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you
>>     like to be a TV repairman these days? :)
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Mike M
>>
>>     On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>     If by "machinist" you're thinking of boring the cylinder and
>>>     installing oversize piston, that's not an option.  The plating
>>>     is the show-stopper.  I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of $35 for
>>>     piston kit and cylinder... I can take exactly one guess what the
>>>     country of origin is, but still, with all the middlemen and
>>>     shipping, we're talking manufacturing costs in the range of just
>>>     a few dollars.  Good luck, and whatever you decide, I hope it is
>>>     available.
>>>
>>>     SO
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:01 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>     <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is scored on the
>>>         exhaust side. Looks like the engine is toast. It took me me
>>>         forever to tear it down. Looks like a new blower is in my
>>>         future. It would cost me more to have a machinist repair it
>>>         than to replace it.
>>>
>>>         Thanks,
>>>         Mike M
>>>
>>>         On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>>         I am still curious about the cylinder. Still assuming it
>>>>         has no liner, just hard plating.  If all that's true...
>>>>         how's it look?!
>>>>
>>>>         SO
>>>>
>>>>         On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>         <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it will still pull
>>>>             over easily but it will not start. At this point, I've
>>>>             fully torn it down, and the piston is really messed up.
>>>>             Looks like a time for a new one. I have about 2 acres
>>>>             to blow clean, so no 5 minutes Brian LOL.
>>>>
>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>             Mike M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 12/3/2021 11:41 AM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
>>>>>             When cold, the cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you
>>>>>             get enough compression to start with a worn ring. As
>>>>>             it warms up you start to lose compression as the
>>>>>             cylinder expands to the point where the worn ring no
>>>>>             longer provides enough sealing and it stalls. Now, you
>>>>>             may say that the worn ring is also expanding against
>>>>>             the cylinder wall, and it does, but not as much as it
>>>>>             should. It’s also expanding on its internal surface,
>>>>>             so it’s creating a gap at the piston groove, allowing
>>>>>             the piston to essentially flop around. That’s what
>>>>>             allows the piston to hit the cylinder wall once it’s
>>>>>             not being kept centered in the cylinder. You can pull
>>>>>             on the cord and feel what you think is compression,
>>>>>             but it’s mostly resistance from all the other moving
>>>>>             pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Carl
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Brian VanDragt
>>>>>             <bvandragt at comcast.net <mailto:bvandragt at comcast.net>>
>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Well if you can get your leaves blown in 5
>>>>>                 minutes, you don't have to do anything to it, but
>>>>>                 you know at least the piston is scored and you
>>>>>                 can't replace it without taking everything else
>>>>>                 apart. When it quits can you turn it over with the
>>>>>                 rope or is it stuck?
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>                 -------- Original message --------
>>>>>                 From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>>                 <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>>>>                 Date: 12/2/21 10:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>>>                 To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>                 <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>                 Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Hi Brian it will run, but only for 5 minutes or
>>>>>                 so, then it's dead.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 12/2/2021 10:22 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote:
>>>>>>                 No matter what parts are damaged, it's not
>>>>>>                 running now, and it's not going to fix itself.
>>>>>>                 Just take it apart and see what you need to fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 -------- Original message --------
>>>>>>                 From: Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>>>>                 <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>>>>                 Date: 12/2/21 10:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>>>>                 To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>>>>                 <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>                 <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>                 Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 One more thing that you might be able to do is
>>>>>>                 push the piston down, pull the spark plug, and
>>>>>>                 try to see the wall by looking through the spark
>>>>>>                 plug hole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Carl Szabelski
>>>>>>                 <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com
>>>>>>                 <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     If you pull the head, you’ll probably find
>>>>>>                     that the cylinder wall is also scored. Try
>>>>>>                     pushing the piston down and sticking a finger
>>>>>>                     in to see if you can feel the wall. Maybe use
>>>>>>                     something like a small dental mirror. If the
>>>>>>                     wall is scored you can probably get a new one
>>>>>>                     as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Mike M
>>>>>>                     <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>>>>>                     wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         Here is the best picture I could get
>>>>>>                         after pulling the muffler. Looks like the
>>>>>>                         piston is toast. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         Regards, Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         On 12/2/2021 6:39 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>>                         So what's the cylinder inside look like?
>>>>>>>                         Can you save it?
>>>>>>>                         Husqvarna trimmer is well worth the
>>>>>>>                         repair costs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Mike M
>>>>>>>                         <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>>>>                         <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             So I pulled apart my leaf blower
>>>>>>>                             today, and looked at the exhaust
>>>>>>>                             port, as was suggested. Heavy
>>>>>>>                             scoring on the piston. So you were
>>>>>>>                             right, she ran it with straight fuel.
>>>>>>>                             Mike M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>>>                             No, engine has experienced a lean
>>>>>>>>                             seizure.
>>>>>>>>                             Lack of lube is another way to put it.
>>>>>>>>                             No quick fix.
>>>>>>>>                             The engine will need a piston and
>>>>>>>>                             rings at the least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Pull off the muffler, look in at
>>>>>>>>                             the piston, you’ll see the piston
>>>>>>>>                             scored on the exhaust side.
>>>>>>>>                             If you’re lucky the cylinder isn’t
>>>>>>>>                             damaged, you’ll have to
>>>>>>>>                             pull the cylinder to check it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Used to do 15 or 20 of those every
>>>>>>>>                             year.
>>>>>>>>                             One quick error, sometimes, can
>>>>>>>>                             cost a lot of money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike
>>>>>>>>                             M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>>>>>                             <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                 So my lovely wife was out
>>>>>>>>                                 blowing leaves the other day
>>>>>>>>                                 with my backpack
>>>>>>>>                                 blower, and it ran out of fuel.
>>>>>>>>                                 She mistakenly filled it with
>>>>>>>>                                 straight
>>>>>>>>                                 lawnmower gas, and after a bit
>>>>>>>>                                 it started to stumble and then
>>>>>>>>                                 quit. She
>>>>>>>>                                 came in to tell me about it and
>>>>>>>>                                 ask what the problem was. When
>>>>>>>>                                 I looked
>>>>>>>>                                 at the tank I noticed there was
>>>>>>>>                                 no blue tint in the gas, and I
>>>>>>>>                                 asked her
>>>>>>>>                                 what can she filled it from,
>>>>>>>>                                 and she pointed to the gas
>>>>>>>>                                 container I use
>>>>>>>>                                 for my zero turn. I told her
>>>>>>>>                                 that was straight gas, and she
>>>>>>>>                                 needed to
>>>>>>>>                                 use the 2 cycle mix, that is in
>>>>>>>>                                 another red 5 gallon can, honest
>>>>>>>>                                 mistake. She claims I told her
>>>>>>>>                                 to use that fuel, when I know I
>>>>>>>>                                 did not.
>>>>>>>>                                 I used it today and it will run
>>>>>>>>                                 for about 5 minutes and then
>>>>>>>>                                 sputter out
>>>>>>>>                                 and die, like it's running out
>>>>>>>>                                 of gas. It will restart, but
>>>>>>>>                                 then the
>>>>>>>>                                 same scenario starts all over
>>>>>>>>                                 again. Is their any chance of
>>>>>>>>                                 saving this
>>>>>>>>                                 engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas
>>>>>>>>                                 ratio? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                 Regards,
>>>>>>>>                                 Mike M
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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