[AT] Backpack leaf blower
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Sat Dec 4 16:35:16 PST 2021
Yep.. My old Kawasaki 360 Prairie worked great until the oil leaked out
of the oil cooler and it was ran a few minutes..
Cecil
On 12/4/2021 1:46 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Seems what you need here Cecil is the antique-tractor equivalent of a
> modern ATV!
>
> Steve O.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:49 PM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
> Then there is the higher ticket items like the ATV I need to be
> mobile. If anything goes wrong it has to go back to the dealer.
> All the test equipment is proprietary to the ATV market, and the
> brand. I think I am going to get the ones I have cleaned up and
> back together and trade them in on a new Polaris and then trade
> every 2 to 3 years. Either you pay for it in trade in or in
> dealer service... I will keep the one carbureted one I have. It
> only has an electric choke.
>
> Cecil
>
> On 12/4/2021 12:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>> I agree Steve, I need the blower know, even if a piston was and
>> cylinder were available, it would take forever to get one. Most
>> things made today with a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you
>> like to be a TV repairman these days? :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> If by "machinist" you're thinking of boring the cylinder and
>>> installing oversize piston, that's not an option. The plating
>>> is the show-stopper. I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of $35 for
>>> piston kit and cylinder... I can take exactly one guess what the
>>> country of origin is, but still, with all the middlemen and
>>> shipping, we're talking manufacturing costs in the range of just
>>> a few dollars. Good luck, and whatever you decide, I hope it is
>>> available.
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:01 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is scored on the
>>> exhaust side. Looks like the engine is toast. It took me me
>>> forever to tear it down. Looks like a new blower is in my
>>> future. It would cost me more to have a machinist repair it
>>> than to replace it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>> I am still curious about the cylinder. Still assuming it
>>>> has no liner, just hard plating. If all that's true...
>>>> how's it look?!
>>>>
>>>> SO
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it will still pull
>>>> over easily but it will not start. At this point, I've
>>>> fully torn it down, and the piston is really messed up.
>>>> Looks like a time for a new one. I have about 2 acres
>>>> to blow clean, so no 5 minutes Brian LOL.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/3/2021 11:41 AM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
>>>>> When cold, the cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you
>>>>> get enough compression to start with a worn ring. As
>>>>> it warms up you start to lose compression as the
>>>>> cylinder expands to the point where the worn ring no
>>>>> longer provides enough sealing and it stalls. Now, you
>>>>> may say that the worn ring is also expanding against
>>>>> the cylinder wall, and it does, but not as much as it
>>>>> should. It’s also expanding on its internal surface,
>>>>> so it’s creating a gap at the piston groove, allowing
>>>>> the piston to essentially flop around. That’s what
>>>>> allows the piston to hit the cylinder wall once it’s
>>>>> not being kept centered in the cylinder. You can pull
>>>>> on the cord and feel what you think is compression,
>>>>> but it’s mostly resistance from all the other moving
>>>>> pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Brian VanDragt
>>>>> <bvandragt at comcast.net <mailto:bvandragt at comcast.net>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well if you can get your leaves blown in 5
>>>>> minutes, you don't have to do anything to it, but
>>>>> you know at least the piston is scored and you
>>>>> can't replace it without taking everything else
>>>>> apart. When it quits can you turn it over with the
>>>>> rope or is it stuck?
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Brian it will run, but only for 5 minutes or
>>>>> so, then it's dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/2/2021 10:22 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote:
>>>>>> No matter what parts are damaged, it's not
>>>>>> running now, and it's not going to fix itself.
>>>>>> Just take it apart and see what you need to fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>>>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One more thing that you might be able to do is
>>>>>> push the piston down, pull the spark plug, and
>>>>>> try to see the wall by looking through the spark
>>>>>> plug hole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Carl Szabelski
>>>>>> <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you pull the head, you’ll probably find
>>>>>> that the cylinder wall is also scored. Try
>>>>>> pushing the piston down and sticking a finger
>>>>>> in to see if you can feel the wall. Maybe use
>>>>>> something like a small dental mirror. If the
>>>>>> wall is scored you can probably get a new one
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Mike M
>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the best picture I could get
>>>>>> after pulling the muffler. Looks like the
>>>>>> piston is toast. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/2/2021 6:39 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>> So what's the cylinder inside look like?
>>>>>>> Can you save it?
>>>>>>> Husqvarna trimmer is well worth the
>>>>>>> repair costs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Mike M
>>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I pulled apart my leaf blower
>>>>>>> today, and looked at the exhaust
>>>>>>> port, as was suggested. Heavy
>>>>>>> scoring on the piston. So you were
>>>>>>> right, she ran it with straight fuel.
>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>>> No, engine has experienced a lean
>>>>>>>> seizure.
>>>>>>>> Lack of lube is another way to put it.
>>>>>>>> No quick fix.
>>>>>>>> The engine will need a piston and
>>>>>>>> rings at the least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pull off the muffler, look in at
>>>>>>>> the piston, you’ll see the piston
>>>>>>>> scored on the exhaust side.
>>>>>>>> If you’re lucky the cylinder isn’t
>>>>>>>> damaged, you’ll have to
>>>>>>>> pull the cylinder to check it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Used to do 15 or 20 of those every
>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>> One quick error, sometimes, can
>>>>>>>> cost a lot of money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike
>>>>>>>> M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So my lovely wife was out
>>>>>>>> blowing leaves the other day
>>>>>>>> with my backpack
>>>>>>>> blower, and it ran out of fuel.
>>>>>>>> She mistakenly filled it with
>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>> lawnmower gas, and after a bit
>>>>>>>> it started to stumble and then
>>>>>>>> quit. She
>>>>>>>> came in to tell me about it and
>>>>>>>> ask what the problem was. When
>>>>>>>> I looked
>>>>>>>> at the tank I noticed there was
>>>>>>>> no blue tint in the gas, and I
>>>>>>>> asked her
>>>>>>>> what can she filled it from,
>>>>>>>> and she pointed to the gas
>>>>>>>> container I use
>>>>>>>> for my zero turn. I told her
>>>>>>>> that was straight gas, and she
>>>>>>>> needed to
>>>>>>>> use the 2 cycle mix, that is in
>>>>>>>> another red 5 gallon can, honest
>>>>>>>> mistake. She claims I told her
>>>>>>>> to use that fuel, when I know I
>>>>>>>> did not.
>>>>>>>> I used it today and it will run
>>>>>>>> for about 5 minutes and then
>>>>>>>> sputter out
>>>>>>>> and die, like it's running out
>>>>>>>> of gas. It will restart, but
>>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>>> same scenario starts all over
>>>>>>>> again. Is their any chance of
>>>>>>>> saving this
>>>>>>>> engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas
>>>>>>>> ratio? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>>
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