[AT] Backpack leaf blower

Sat Dec 4 11:46:18 PST 2021

Seems what you need here Cecil is the antique-tractor equivalent of a
modern ATV!

Steve O.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:49 PM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:

> Then there is the higher ticket items like the ATV I need to be mobile.
> If anything goes wrong it has to go back to the dealer.  All the test
> equipment is proprietary to the ATV market, and the brand.  I think I am
> going to get the ones I have cleaned up and back together and trade them in
> on a new Polaris and then trade every 2 to 3 years.  Either you pay for it
> in trade in or in dealer service...  I will keep the one carbureted one I
> have.  It only has an electric choke.
>
> Cecil
> On 12/4/2021 12:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>
> I agree Steve, I need the blower know, even if a piston was and cylinder
> were available, it would take forever to get one. Most things made today
> with a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you like to be a TV repairman
> these days? :)
>
> Thanks,
> Mike M
>
> On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> If by "machinist" you're thinking of boring the cylinder and installing
> oversize piston, that's not an option.  The plating is the show-stopper.
> I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of $35 for piston kit and cylinder... I can
> take exactly one guess what the country of origin is, but still, with all
> the middlemen and shipping, we're talking manufacturing costs in the range
> of just a few dollars.  Good luck, and whatever you decide, I hope it is
> available.
>
> SO
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:01 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is scored on the exhaust side.
>> Looks like the engine is toast. It took me me forever to tear it down.
>> Looks like a new blower is in my future. It would cost me more to have a
>> machinist repair it than to replace it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>
>> I am still curious about the cylinder.  Still assuming it has no liner,
>> just hard plating.  If all that's true... how's it look?!
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it will still pull over easily but
>>> it will not start. At this point, I've fully torn it down, and the piston
>>> is really messed up. Looks like a time for a new one. I have about 2 acres
>>> to blow clean, so no 5 minutes Brian LOL.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/3/2021 11:41 AM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
>>>
>>> When cold, the cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you get enough
>>> compression to start with a worn ring. As it warms up you start to lose
>>> compression as the cylinder expands to the point where the worn ring no
>>> longer provides enough sealing and it stalls. Now, you may say that the
>>> worn ring is also expanding against the cylinder wall, and it does, but not
>>> as much as it should. It’s also expanding on its internal surface, so it’s
>>> creating a gap at the piston groove, allowing the piston to essentially
>>> flop around. That’s what allows the piston to hit the cylinder wall once
>>> it’s not being kept centered in the cylinder. You can pull on the cord and
>>> feel what you think is compression, but it’s mostly resistance from all the
>>> other moving pieces.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Brian VanDragt <bvandragt at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well if you can get your leaves blown in 5 minutes, you don't have to
>>>> do anything to it, but you know at least the piston is scored and you can't
>>>> replace it without taking everything else apart. When it quits can you turn
>>>> it over with the rope or is it stuck?
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brian it will run, but only for 5 minutes or so, then it's dead.
>>>>
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>> On 12/2/2021 10:22 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No matter what parts are damaged, it's not running now, and it's not
>>>> going to fix itself. Just take it apart and see what you need to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>> <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>
>>>> One more thing that you might be able to do is push the piston down,
>>>> pull the spark plug, and try to see the wall by looking through the spark
>>>> plug hole.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you pull the head, you’ll probably find that the cylinder wall is
>>>>> also scored. Try pushing the piston down and sticking a finger in to see if
>>>>> you can feel the wall. Maybe use something like a small dental mirror. If
>>>>> the wall is scored you can probably get a new one as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the best picture I could get after pulling the muffler. Looks
>>>>>> like the piston is toast. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/2/2021 6:39 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what's the cylinder inside look like?
>>>>>> Can you save it?
>>>>>> Husqvarna trimmer is well worth the repair costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I pulled apart my leaf blower today, and looked at the exhaust
>>>>>>> port, as was suggested. Heavy scoring on the piston. So you were right, she
>>>>>>> ran it with straight fuel.
>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, engine has experienced a lean seizure.
>>>>>>> Lack of lube is another way to put it.
>>>>>>> No quick fix.
>>>>>>> The engine will need a piston and rings at the least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pull off the muffler, look in at the piston, you’ll see the piston
>>>>>>> scored on the exhaust side.
>>>>>>> If you’re lucky the cylinder isn’t damaged, you’ll have to
>>>>>>> pull the cylinder to check it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Used to do 15 or 20 of those every year.
>>>>>>> One quick error, sometimes, can cost a lot of money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So my lovely wife was out blowing leaves the other day with my
>>>>>>>> backpack
>>>>>>>> blower, and it ran out of fuel. She mistakenly filled it with
>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>> lawnmower gas, and after a bit it started to stumble and then quit.
>>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>>> came in to tell me about it and ask what the problem was. When I
>>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>> at the tank I noticed there was no blue tint in the gas, and I
>>>>>>>> asked her
>>>>>>>> what can she filled it from, and she pointed to the gas container I
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> for my zero turn. I told her that was straight gas, and she needed
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use the 2 cycle mix, that is in another red 5 gallon can, honest
>>>>>>>> mistake. She claims I told her to use that fuel, when I know I did
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> I used it today and it will run for about 5 minutes and then
>>>>>>>> sputter out
>>>>>>>> and die, like it's running out of gas. It will restart, but then the
>>>>>>>> same scenario starts all over again. Is their any chance of saving
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas ratio? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>>
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