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<p>Yep.. My old Kawasaki 360 Prairie worked great until the oil
leaked out of the oil cooler and it was ran a few minutes..</p>
<p>Cecil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2021 1:46 PM, Stephen Offiler
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<div dir="ltr">Seems what you need here Cecil is the
antique-tractor equivalent of a modern ATV!
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:49 PM
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<p>Then there is the higher ticket items like the ATV I need
to be mobile. If anything goes wrong it has to go back
to the dealer. All the test equipment is proprietary to
the ATV market, and the brand. I think I am going to get
the ones I have cleaned up and back together and trade
them in on a new Polaris and then trade every 2 to 3
years. Either you pay for it in trade in or in dealer
service... I will keep the one carbureted one I have. It
only has an electric choke. <br>
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<p>Cecil<br>
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<div>On 12/4/2021 12:26 PM, Mike M wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> I agree Steve, I need the blower
know, even if a piston was and cylinder were available, it
would take forever to get one. Most things made today with
a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you like to be a TV
repairman these days? :)<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike M<br>
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<div>On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If by "machinist" you're thinking of
boring the cylinder and installing oversize piston,
that's not an option. The plating is
the show-stopper. I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of
$35 for piston kit and cylinder... I can take exactly
one guess what the country of origin is, but still,
with all the middlemen and shipping, we're talking
manufacturing costs in the range of just a few
dollars. Good luck, and whatever you decide, I hope
it is available.
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<div>SO</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 3, 2021
at 8:01 PM Mike M <<a
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<div> Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is
scored on the exhaust side. Looks like the engine
is toast. It took me me forever to tear it down.
Looks like a new blower is in my future. It would
cost me more to have a machinist repair it than to
replace it.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike M<br>
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<div>On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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<div>I am still curious about the cylinder.
Still assuming it has no liner, just hard
plating. If all that's true... how's it
look?!</div>
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<div>SO<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec
3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <<a
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<div> Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it
will still pull over easily but it will
not start. At this point, I've fully torn
it down, and the piston is really messed
up. Looks like a time for a new one. I
have about 2 acres to blow clean, so no 5
minutes Brian LOL.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike M<br>
<br>
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<div>On 12/3/2021 11:41 AM, Carl Szabelski
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> When cold, the
cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you
get enough compression to start with a
worn ring. As it warms up you start to
lose compression as the cylinder expands
to the point where the worn ring no
longer provides enough sealing and it
stalls. Now, you may say that the worn
ring is also expanding against the
cylinder wall, and it does, but not as
much as it should. It’s also expanding
on its internal surface, so it’s
creating a gap at the piston groove,
allowing the piston to essentially flop
around. That’s what allows the piston to
hit the cylinder wall once it’s not
being kept centered in the cylinder. You
can pull on the cord and feel what you
think is compression, but it’s mostly
resistance from all the other moving
pieces.
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<div>Carl<br>
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<div dir="auto">Well if you can get
your leaves blown in 5 minutes,
you don't have to do anything to
it, but you know at least the
piston is scored and you can't
replace it without taking
everything else apart. When it
quits can you turn it over with
the rope or is it stuck?
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<div>Date: 12/2/21 10:37 PM
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<div>Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack
leaf blower </div>
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Hi Brian it will run, but only for
5 minutes or so, then it's dead.<br>
<br>
Mike M<br>
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<div>On 12/2/2021 10:22 PM, Brian
VanDragt wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> No matter
what parts are damaged, it's not
running now, and it's not going
to fix itself. Just take it
apart and see what you need to
fix it.
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<div dir="auto">Brian </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [AT]
Backpack leaf blower </div>
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One more thing that you might be
able to do is push the piston
down, pull the spark plug, and
try to see the wall by looking
through the spark plug hole.
<div><br>
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<div>Carl<br>
<br>
On Thursday, December 2, 2021,
Carl Szabelski <<a
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">If you pull the head, you’ll probably
find that the cylinder wall
is also scored. Try pushing
the piston down and sticking
a finger in to see if you
can feel the wall. Maybe use
something like a small
dental mirror. If the wall
is scored you can probably
get a new one as well.
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<div>Carl<br>
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2021, Mike M <<a
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<div> Here is the best
picture I could get
after pulling the
muffler. Looks like
the piston is toast.
Any thoughts?<br>
<br>
Regards, Mike M<br>
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<div>On 12/2/2021 6:39
PM, Moe Fretz wrote:<br>
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<div
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">So
what's the
cylinder inside
look like?</div>
<div
class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">Can
you save it?</div>
<div
class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">Husqvarna trimmer
is well worth
the repair
costs.</div>
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class="gmail_attr">On
Thu, Dec 2, 2021
at 3:11 PM Mike
M <<a
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<div> So I
pulled apart
my leaf blower
today, and
looked at the
exhaust port,
as was
suggested.
Heavy scoring
on the piston.
So you were
right, she ran
it with
straight fuel.<br>
Mike M<br>
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<div>On
11/27/2021
7:20 PM, Moe
Fretz wrote:<br>
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type="cite">
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<div
dir="auto">No,
engine has
experienced a
lean seizure. </div>
<div
dir="auto">Lack
of lube is
another way to
put it. </div>
<div
dir="auto">No
quick fix. </div>
<div
dir="auto">The
engine will
need a piston
and rings at
the least. </div>
<div
dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div
dir="auto">Pull
off the
muffler, look
in at the
piston, you’ll
see the piston
scored on the
exhaust side. </div>
<div
dir="auto">If
you’re lucky
the cylinder
isn’t damaged,
you’ll have
to </div>
<div
dir="auto">pull
the cylinder
to check it. </div>
<div
dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div
dir="auto">Used
to do 15 or 20
of those every
year. </div>
<div
dir="auto">One
quick error,
sometimes, can
cost a lot of
money. </div>
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class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike M <<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So
my lovely wife
was out
blowing leaves
the other day
with my
backpack<br>
blower, and it
ran out of
fuel. She
mistakenly
filled it with
straight<br>
lawnmower gas,
and after a
bit it started
to stumble and
then quit. She<br>
came in to
tell me about
it and ask
what the
problem was.
When I looked<br>
at the tank I
noticed there
was no blue
tint in the
gas, and I
asked her<br>
what can she
filled it
from, and she
pointed to the
gas container
I use<br>
for my zero
turn. I told
her that was
straight gas,
and she needed
to<br>
use the 2
cycle mix,
that is in
another red 5
gallon can,
honest<br>
mistake. She
claims I told
her to use
that fuel,
when I know I
did not. <br>
I used it
today and it
will run for
about 5
minutes and
then sputter
out<br>
and die, like
it's running
out of gas. It
will restart,
but then the<br>
same scenario
starts all
over again. Is
their any
chance of
saving this<br>
engine? Maybe
a higher
oil/gas ratio?
Thanks in
advance.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Mike M<br>
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