[AT] Backpack leaf blower
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Sat Dec 4 10:43:46 PST 2021
Then there is the higher ticket items like the ATV I need to be mobile.
If anything goes wrong it has to go back to the dealer. All the test
equipment is proprietary to the ATV market, and the brand. I think I am
going to get the ones I have cleaned up and back together and trade them
in on a new Polaris and then trade every 2 to 3 years. Either you pay
for it in trade in or in dealer service... I will keep the one
carbureted one I have. It only has an electric choke.
Cecil
On 12/4/2021 12:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
> I agree Steve, I need the blower know, even if a piston was and
> cylinder were available, it would take forever to get one. Most things
> made today with a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you like to be
> a TV repairman these days? :)
>
> Thanks,
> Mike M
>
> On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> If by "machinist" you're thinking of boring the cylinder and
>> installing oversize piston, that's not an option. The plating is
>> the show-stopper. I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of $35 for piston
>> kit and cylinder... I can take exactly one guess what the country of
>> origin is, but still, with all the middlemen and shipping, we're
>> talking manufacturing costs in the range of just a few dollars. Good
>> luck, and whatever you decide, I hope it is available.
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:01 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is scored on the exhaust
>> side. Looks like the engine is toast. It took me me forever to
>> tear it down. Looks like a new blower is in my future. It would
>> cost me more to have a machinist repair it than to replace it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> I am still curious about the cylinder. Still assuming it has no
>>> liner, just hard plating. If all that's true... how's it look?!
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it will still pull over
>>> easily but it will not start. At this point, I've fully torn
>>> it down, and the piston is really messed up. Looks like a
>>> time for a new one. I have about 2 acres to blow clean, so
>>> no 5 minutes Brian LOL.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/3/2021 11:41 AM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
>>>> When cold, the cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you get
>>>> enough compression to start with a worn ring. As it warms
>>>> up you start to lose compression as the cylinder expands to
>>>> the point where the worn ring no longer provides enough
>>>> sealing and it stalls. Now, you may say that the worn ring
>>>> is also expanding against the cylinder wall, and it does,
>>>> but not as much as it should. It’s also expanding on its
>>>> internal surface, so it’s creating a gap at the piston
>>>> groove, allowing the piston to essentially flop around.
>>>> That’s what allows the piston to hit the cylinder wall once
>>>> it’s not being kept centered in the cylinder. You can pull
>>>> on the cord and feel what you think is compression, but
>>>> it’s mostly resistance from all the other moving pieces.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Brian VanDragt
>>>> <bvandragt at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well if you can get your leaves blown in 5 minutes, you
>>>> don't have to do anything to it, but you know at least
>>>> the piston is scored and you can't replace it without
>>>> taking everything else apart. When it quits can you
>>>> turn it over with the rope or is it stuck?
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brian it will run, but only for 5 minutes or so,
>>>> then it's dead.
>>>>
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>> On 12/2/2021 10:22 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote:
>>>>> No matter what parts are damaged, it's not running
>>>>> now, and it's not going to fix itself. Just take it
>>>>> apart and see what you need to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>>
>>>>> One more thing that you might be able to do is push
>>>>> the piston down, pull the spark plug, and try to see
>>>>> the wall by looking through the spark plug hole.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Carl Szabelski
>>>>> <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you pull the head, you’ll probably find that
>>>>> the cylinder wall is also scored. Try pushing the
>>>>> piston down and sticking a finger in to see if you
>>>>> can feel the wall. Maybe use something like a
>>>>> small dental mirror. If the wall is scored you can
>>>>> probably get a new one as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Mike M
>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the best picture I could get after
>>>>> pulling the muffler. Looks like the piston is
>>>>> toast. Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/2/2021 6:39 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>> So what's the cylinder inside look like?
>>>>>> Can you save it?
>>>>>> Husqvarna trimmer is well worth the repair costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Mike M
>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I pulled apart my leaf blower today,
>>>>>> and looked at the exhaust port, as was
>>>>>> suggested. Heavy scoring on the piston.
>>>>>> So you were right, she ran it with
>>>>>> straight fuel.
>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>> No, engine has experienced a lean seizure.
>>>>>>> Lack of lube is another way to put it.
>>>>>>> No quick fix.
>>>>>>> The engine will need a piston and rings
>>>>>>> at the least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pull off the muffler, look in at the
>>>>>>> piston, you’ll see the piston scored on
>>>>>>> the exhaust side.
>>>>>>> If you’re lucky the cylinder isn’t
>>>>>>> damaged, you’ll have to
>>>>>>> pull the cylinder to check it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Used to do 15 or 20 of those every year.
>>>>>>> One quick error, sometimes, can cost a
>>>>>>> lot of money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike M
>>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So my lovely wife was out blowing
>>>>>>> leaves the other day with my backpack
>>>>>>> blower, and it ran out of fuel. She
>>>>>>> mistakenly filled it with straight
>>>>>>> lawnmower gas, and after a bit it
>>>>>>> started to stumble and then quit. She
>>>>>>> came in to tell me about it and ask
>>>>>>> what the problem was. When I looked
>>>>>>> at the tank I noticed there was no
>>>>>>> blue tint in the gas, and I asked her
>>>>>>> what can she filled it from, and she
>>>>>>> pointed to the gas container I use
>>>>>>> for my zero turn. I told her that
>>>>>>> was straight gas, and she needed to
>>>>>>> use the 2 cycle mix, that is in
>>>>>>> another red 5 gallon can, honest
>>>>>>> mistake. She claims I told her to
>>>>>>> use that fuel, when I know I did not.
>>>>>>> I used it today and it will run for
>>>>>>> about 5 minutes and then sputter out
>>>>>>> and die, like it's running out of
>>>>>>> gas. It will restart, but then the
>>>>>>> same scenario starts all over again.
>>>>>>> Is their any chance of saving this
>>>>>>> engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas
>>>>>>> ratio? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>
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