[AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera recommendation

Sat Aug 21 06:34:34 PDT 2021

OUCH!

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:14 AM Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, yesterday evening didn’t turn out to good for me. Wife sent me to
> the local church dinner event to get dinner since it was too muggy and she
> decided not to cook. On the way a driver pulling a large dump trailer
> filled with rock took out my windshield , as well as the windshield of over
> 14+ other drivers. I have several windshield and hood chips and dings, one
> “chip” the size of a tennis ball. Turns out his gate was bent up and even
> though it was fully closed, rock was falling out of the bottom. Didn’t help
> that he was doing 55 in a 35 zone. Turned around and chased him for a
> couple of miles before I could get him to pull over. No sooner than he got
> out of his truck, several other drivers pulled up behind him. Long story
> short several local police cars and a sheriff’s car showed up and started
> taking damage reports from all the drivers who called, they must have been
> flooded with calls. The road was lined for several miles with police cars
> and drivers who pulled over where they got hit. One officer was tasked with
> taking pictures of the damage, as well as everybody’s license plate,
> drivers’s license, registration, and proof of insurance. Another officer
> was tasked with rolling everything into one large report instead of dozens
> of incident reports. With all those pictures, that’s going to be a large
> report.
>
> Carl
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021, <k7jdj at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Many years ago my mother was in a McDonald's parking lot minor damage and
>> she was charged with hit and run because she failed to give her diver
>> license number to the other driver.  She thought all that was needed was
>> the vehicle license plate, of course anyone could have been driving.  State
>> law requires you to give your driver license number to the other driver.  I
>> not only give them my license, but take a picture of them holding it so it
>> shows my license in their hand.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> Renton, WA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: deanvp at att.net
>> To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <
>> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2021 3:51 pm
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera
>> recommendation
>>
>> Thanks every one for your comments and suggestions. I didn’t do certain
>> things at the accident site I should have. But… let me tell you I was more
>> than a little shook up. In those last few seconds while trying to miss him
>> your mind goes into overdrive thinking terrible things.   I think I did a
>> damned good job of minimizing the damage both to his truck as well as
>> mine.  If I had rear ended him is suspect both trucks would have been
>> totaled with the possibility of some injuries.  So having the sense under
>> pressure to drive to the right to miss him and not hit the trees was pretty
>> good for this old man.   But…. I wasn’t thinking very good when it came
>> time to get pictures of the scene and of various documents.  I have a
>> perfectly good Smart Phone but I resorted to hand writing all information.
>> There were two factors that confused things for me.  He left the scene of
>> the accident for a short time so the actual accident scene had already been
>> compromised and it was pitch black with no moon or the moon was covered
>> with clouds. It was really dark.  So I resorted to a flashlight. Forgetting
>> that my Android phone has a flash etc.  I’ll admit I was a bit shook up. My
>> mind had contemplated something much worse. I wasn’t thinking 100% straight
>> anymore. The strange part is I cannot find any evidence of the collision at
>> the site in daylight. I cannot find any pieces of car parts, or plastic or
>> anything.  I’m now thinking it has been stripped of any evidence.  I’ve
>> been up and down the road at several driveways and cannot find a thing.
>> That really bothers me.  I also am a bit confused about how ABS brakes
>> work, I was on the brake pedal as hard as can be but I never left a skid
>> mark on the asphalt road.  I know ABS is supposed to find the maximum
>> traction when braking but as hard as I was on the brake pedal I don’t quite
>> understand why is didn’t leave a mark.
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel
>> of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>
>> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *
>> deanvp at att.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:27 PM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera
>> recommendation
>>
>>
>> Sorry to change the subject but I have a little challenge right now. My
>> antique Tractor puller P/U and I were in a little fender bender incident
>> recently which has become very complex since  the other driver gave me all
>> false data as to who he was, where he lived, how to contact him  and
>> whether he was insured or not.  Other than that things are going well.
>> After about 5 days of online investigation my wife and I tracked him down
>> and have a working cell phone number for him.  I’ve talked to him and we
>> have exchanged several text messages but I still don’t know where he lives
>> and who his insurance company is. I gave him my insurance company verbally
>> at the accident but he seems to have forgotten it and now repeatedly asks
>> for who the company is. I refuse to give it to him until I get a valid
>> insurance company name from him.  All he will talk about is getting his
>> truck fixed.  And that the accident was my fault. To add more stupid stuff
>> to this whole fiasco he is now claiming injury which is a crock of cow
>> dung.
>>
>> He backed out of a blind driveway onto the road heading in the same
>> direction as I was.  This was at about 9:45PM and it was pitch black dark
>> with no street lights way out in the country.  I only noticed the
>> reflection of my headlights off of the side of his black Dodge Pick Up. No
>> tail lights, no back up lights, no brake lights, no running lights, no
>> lights of any sort. I immediately slammed on the brakes and started
>> steering and braking to the right  of his truck which was now close to
>> being in the right orientation to head down the road. I saw the eye of a
>> needle to try to get between the truck and the trees at the driveway exit.
>> Well, I came to a stop right after brushing the side of his truck and
>> messing up my left fender. I got close to threading the needle.  Could have
>> been a pretty violent rear-ender otherwise.   But as you might expect he is
>> now blaming me and I hit him therefore I am at fault.  I have no witnesses
>> to prove what happened.  I’ve informed my insurance Co and filed a
>> collision report with the Washington State Patrol.  I’m pretty sure he is
>> an uninsured driver which is illegal in our state. In my investigation
>> tracking him down I have been told he is involved in illicit  drugs and he
>> DOES have a criminal record..  So…. Due to this I am looking for a dash
>> camera to mount on our vehicles so I don’t have to go through this
>> situation of not having proof again.
>>
>> So I’m looking for Dash Camera suggestions for my 2003 Ford F250 and a
>> 2016 Buick L:acrosse.  I usually don’t buy the fancy stuff I just get the
>> basics  in a good product that are needed.    Suggestions would be
>> appreciated???? I’ve had one recommended to me and that is a Rove 4 but I
>> know nothing about it yet.
>>
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel
>> of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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