[AT] Project Updates '49 A, '51 A, and '47 B (STEVE ALLEN)

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon May 11 06:44:52 PDT 2020


I had an Onan generator that had a bunch of fine rust in the tank and it 
would plug up the fuel bowl every time it was moved.   We had been using 
it during the winter and had to mix a gallon of methanol with a tank of 
gas to keep the carburetor from icing up at about 3 am.   When I drained 
the tank it was completely dry from the Methanol.  I put a pound of 1/4 
inch nuts in the tank and jacked up a tractor wheel tied the tank to the 
wheel and let it idle in gear for about 2 hours.  I then took a piece of 
1/2 inch PVC and taped it to the shop vac and sucked out the tank.  I 
also put a short length of whip air hose in the tank and used the air to 
get it to flop around and loosen the rest of the crud up.  Then sucked 
it out again...  I have not had a problem with it since. That was right 
after the 2001 Ice storm...
Cecil

On 5/10/2020 10:47 PM, deanvp wrote:
> Relative to the tank,  take it off and throw in the bunch a big bunch 
> of nuts,  bunch, meaning 10 or more. Square headed nuts work the best. 
> Tie the tank on to something that rotates and run it that way for at 
> least a couple of hours letting the nuts beat up the inside of the 
> tank to remove the rusty scale.  Then remove the nuts and the loose 
> scale.  Then purchase some tank etching solution and sealer.  That is 
> the only way you are going to stop the loose scale from continuing to 
> come loose.
>
> The points reading 0.5 ohms closed and 0.7 ohms open. Is a serious 
> problem.  When the points are closed they should read the same as what 
> your ohm meter reads when shorting the two test leads together. 0.000 
> ohms would be perfect.  When the points are open the reading should be 
> many megohms. O.7 ohms is essentially still closed.
>
>
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: STEVE ALLEN <steveallen855 at centurytel.net>
> Date: 5/10/20 5:00 PM (GMT-08:00)
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Project Updates  '49 A, '51 A, and '47 B (STEVE ALLEN)
>
> OK, two quick updates that I hope will generate more ideas.
>
> '51 A:
> We're finding a lot of loose, rust scale in the tank.  When I say a 
> "lot," I don't mean the bottom is covered with it,  But, dangling a 
> flashlight inside, I saw what appeared to be some "stuff" around the 
> outlet.  So we used magnets on extendable rods, and pulled out a 
> couple ounces of scale.  Finally, the magnet came out clean.  Ran the 
> tractor.  More starvation.  Put the magnet back in, more loads of 
> scale came out.
>
> The bottom of the take looks pretty clean, but there are small, dark 
> patches that I think represent some more or at least places where the 
> coating (if any) is worn.  did these tanks come with a coating?  
> Anyway. the fuel flow seems much better as we reduce the amount of 
> scale in there, but we have more to go.
>
> Is there a better cleaning process?  I seem to remember someone 
> suggesting a powerful magnet near the outlet to catch such crud. Or am 
> I remembering something else??
>
> '49 A:
> No spar4k from the mag, either using the plug or, per the manual, a 
> wire with an 1/8" gap to ground.  No spark either one.  I checked 
> continuity on the points per Dean.  My meter read .5 Ohms with the 
> points closed and .7 Ohms with them open (separated by a thin piece of 
> cardboard).  I seem to have good continuity on the cap; visual 
> inspection shows no cracks, but will have to check that further.  No 
> continuity between the interior contacts and the center contact, at 
> least.  No kill switch or other possible ground through the cap or the 
> case.  Rotor clean and checked for proper continuity:  center button 
> to contact has continuity; no continuity between center button and the 
> metal plate inside which touches the shaft.
>
> Carl:  I don't quite get what you mean by wiring with a coil replacing 
> the mag.  Could you explain more?
>
> Dean:  used some very fine sand paper on the points to clean them.  .5 
> Ohms with them closed; .7 Ohms with them open (separated by cardboard).
>
> I have another mag, but it hasn't been used in many years; a new cap 
> is about $60+ shipped; would prefer not to order unless I am sure the 
> cap is bad.  Do the Ohm readings on the points suggest a problem?
>
> Thanks again, all!
>
> The "original" Steve Allen
> Doing my part to keep the list active.
>
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