[AT] Small UPDATE: '47 B

[Cecil Bearden]

Just FYI  you can use a 12 volt generator on a 6 volts system as long as 
the regulator is 6 volt.  I did this several times when we put an 8 volt 
battery in a 6 volt system  Lights work better too.
Cecil

On 7/15/2020 10:39 PM, jdnut at aol.com wrote:
> Steve,
> Carl has responded, and he is a lot more learned about this stuff than 
> me.  I will just tell you what I did..... on my Dad's 45 Model A Deere 
> (6 volt) and two other six volt tractors, including a 45 BR.  I don't 
> know if your 47 is 6 or 12 volt.  If it is 6 volt, I believe that the 
> suggested wires are a little on the light side, though it is in my DNA 
> to overbuild most things.  On my Dad's 1945 Model "A", I got at least 
> 0 welding wire... could have been 00, but I think 0.  When you do your 
> measurements, add 2-3 inches because the wire is pretty stiff. 
>  Because I was more interested in function than being factory 
> original, I had the ground wire made so I could bolt it directly to 
> the starter.  Spencer had a company in "Florida" make some cables for 
> him a little while ago, I believe.  If your tractor is 12 volt, you 
> could probably reduce wire size by a notch... but if battery is under 
> the seat, that is a pretty long cable, so I might still go with 
> something pretty heavy.
>
> Regarding the wiring harness, on my 1945 BR, also 6 volt, I probably 
> have 10 gauge wire running to the generator and to the starter 
> solenoid.  Probably 12 or 14  gauge for the rest... will check in the 
> morning if you are interested...
>
> One of the list members might have a rebuilt generator for your 
> tractor, and you might be surprised that you may still have a shop 
> that can rebuild them.  I reverse engineered a rebuilt one that I 
> bought and now have rebuilt a couple myself.  Again, if six volt, 
> possibly a little extra work involved.  Hardest thing for me was 
> replacing the field coils.
>
> Regarding spark plugs....Ferndale is pretty much on the northern CA 
> coast.... not a lot of fire danger.... so... in case I start some sort 
> of flame session... I like Autolite spark plugs in my two cylinders.
>
> Good luck and take care,
> John Maxwell
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: STEVE ALLEN <steveallen855 at centurytel.net>
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2020 1:37 pm
> Subject: [AT] Small UPDATE: '47 B
>
> YOU asked for it!
>
> My son has been called back to work as of next week, so we have been 
> trying to get a number of things done--especially he has because I am 
> in the office every day.  In addition to keeping up with the grass and 
> making preparations for an ACW re-enactment on the 25th/26th (assuming 
> it actually comes off and isn't cancelled), he has been doing more 
> work on the '47 JD B.
>
> We had tested the starter, and I told him to begin looking at the 
> battery cables and wiring.  He called me out to review his findings.  
> The negative cable that goes to the starter may be original.  The 
> terminal on the starter end looks to be in good shape, but the 
> connection is under a bunch of dried dirt and oil.  The battery 
> connection is junk.  We pulled I out, and we are going to at least 
> replace the ends.  I may replace the entire cable.  I am not sure what 
> gauge it is--is there a way to tell?--and I want to make sure that we 
> have a GOOD circuit.  The positive (ground) cable is just junk.  We're 
> definitely replacing it. Since we had to take off the battery box, I 
> told him to clean it up.  He freed up the seat so that it adjusts 
> again--that hasn't happened since 1980, at least.  We're debating 
> getting a replacement harness for the wiring:  the original wiring is 
> mostly gone, and the cobbled-together replacements are cut and dangling.
>
> We know the generator needs work, but I have to find a shop.  The one 
> that used to be around here is long gone.  I'll bet the regulator is 
> junk, too.  Since it is a Mag tractor, we don't *need* those features 
> just to get it going, we have time to decide.  Speaking of the mag, we 
> need to begin collecting the necessary parts to overhaul it.  The 
> inside is not rusted or gunked up, but it is dirty, so it will get new 
> guts.  The coil in it was replaced among the last thing I ever did to 
> the tractor 'way back when, so am not worried about it. We'll need new 
> wires, plugs, etc.  In fact, I want to put new plugs in all three.
>
> Let me therefore ask a dangerous question:  What's everyone's favorite 
> 2-cylinder plug?
>
> Anyway, the carb just needs to be reassembled, and we can put the 
> intake system back together.  Oh, actually, we need a new air cleaner 
> oil cup, for he found a hole in the one on there.  It's always something!
>
> OK, so that's the latest at our place.  Now, it's someone else's turn ;-)
>
> The "original" Steve Allen
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