[AT] Cub - Update

[Al Jones]

There are basically two JD dealers in NC--Quality Equipment and James River
Equipment.  I couldn't tell you how many stores Quality has, but it's a
lot. James River is in VA but they have a few stores in the piedmont of
NC.  I think there is one privately/family owned JD dealer in the state,
Gay Implement in Seaboard, NC.

caseIH/CNH has done something similar, but compared to JD it's like they're
not even trying. We now have two Dealers in NC--one privately/family owned
(Clinton Truck & Tractor) and then another dealer with multiple stores but
nowhere as many as JD.  CNH made two of the best dealers in NC give up
their contracts(Clapp Bros. in Siler City and Mills in Kinston--the dealer
I frequented) because they weren't "Big" enough.  In Mills' case I expect
many of their loyal customers to go green.

Al

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 3:06 PM Mark Johnson <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>
wrote:

> Where Deere & Co. lost me has nothing to do with antique tractors at all,
> but rather with their service and maintenance policy for today's highly
> software-driven ag machinery. They have effectively put a 'No
> User-Serviceable Parts Inside. Warranty void if seal is broken' sign on
> their tractors, and with the destruction of the network of small local
> (some would say mom-and-pop) dealers, a simple failure can be a multi-day
> adventure in high-tech repairs. I'm not sure if it is true for the whole
> country, but this policy has been upheld by courts in California.
>
> One of my sources works for one of those now-former JD dealers. Deere
> offered to buy back their inventory, with a one-time deal, and told them
> that they didn't *have* to sell everything back (tractors, implements, and
> parts) but that they would get no factory support for anything they sold
> after the cutoff date. The 'word on the street' is that Deere & Co. wants
> to have regional dealers with at least 6 outlets, and that more than that
> is even better. At the same time they got bought out, the big regional
> dealer in Missouri (Sydenstricker) merged with Nobbe...the combined
> dealership has locations in 26 towns in Missouri and Illinois. It's
> virtually impossible to avoid them in central to north/eastern MO and
> southwestern IL. [That said, I've never tried to deal with them myself...]
> Mark J
> Columbia, MO
>
>
> On 7/9/2020 1:44 PM, deanvp at att.net wrote:
>
> Part of the problems were related to the x60 series of tractors in the
> late 50’ which allowed JD to capture the lead in # of tractors produced but
> that was just one of many mistakes that I/H made and they were in such a
> weakened position by the time the 80’s farm crisis arrived they could not
> ride it out…., alone. It is a whole series of mistakes.    There is a book
> written by a woman that exposes these mistakes by the name of Barbara Marsh
> titled: A Corporate Tragedy: The Agony of International Harvester Company.
> Worth reading.
>
>
>
> I think it would be unwise to think that JD only overtook I/H in total
> Farm Equipment Sales because I/H made some mistakes.  JD made a few
> mistakes along the way as well. But they made some really good decisions
> too. The JD New Generation tractors announced in the fall of 1960 were one
> of many good decisions JD made to become the power house they are today. I
> have no experience on comparing how good a JD Tractor vs a Case I/H tractor
> is today so I make no judgments on that.
>
>
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Sounds like you think the downfall stemmed from the tractor problems.
> Tractors were about 40% of the company and couldn’t have saved the company
> even if there were no problems.  The real mismanagement was in the
> financial area going back as far as the 20s & 30s.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:37 PM Brian VanDragt <bvandragt at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> IH has had plenty of time to catch up, but they just can't.
>
> Brian
>
> --
>
> Howard
>
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