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[Phil Auten]

I had forgotten about the Capri. Yes, it was built by Ford in Germany. A 
brown '74 was my son's first car. I worked on that thing constantly 
until it blew a head gasket and turned the oil into a milkshake. I gave 
it away and got him a used Subaru. Everything on both cars was metric.

Phil in TX



On 2/24/2020 9:39 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> You're absolutely right, Phil... I was just working from flawed memory 
> when I typed that, and I was in error regarding the date.  What I was 
> really referring to was that timeframe when we all started seeing 
> speed limit signs in both MPH and KPH, as well as the speedometers on 
> our cars. That, it turns out, was a push by the government that lasted 
> from 1975 to 1982, per Wikipedia.  So it was a little earlier than the 
> 80's as I stated, but not a lot.
>
> I'm not sure exactly how to pinpoint the beginning of metrication and 
> it depends how you define it. Based on your example of the '72 Pinto, 
> one could extrapolate that it really started happening when equipment 
> using metric fasteners started appearing in the USA, and that is much 
> earlier than 1972.  The Pinto engine was built by Ford Europe and 
> would have been the primary place you were encountering metric 
> fasteners.  I had a couple different Mercury Capri's from that same 
> era, which were actually built entirely in (I believe) Germany, which 
> (I believe) had the same 2-liter engine.  The Capri's were entirely 
> metric as far as I can recall, and that would be no surprise.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:13 AM Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net 
> <mailto:pga2 at basicisp.net>> wrote:
>
>     The metrification began before the 80's, Stephen. I owned a '72
>     Pinto Wagon that was mixed SAE and metric. I suspect that every
>     foreign car imported into the US was either all metric or a mix,
>     since most of the rest of the world has been on the metric system
>     for several decades.
>
>     Phil in TX
>
>
>     On 2/23/2020 5:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>     Sprayed liners are far from new.  BMW built motorcycle engines
>>     with this technology back in the 1980's and riders have been know
>>     to put 300,000 and more miles on those bikes.  There was a time
>>     BMW car engines used a similar technology and developed a bad
>>     reputation.  It was actually due to high sulfur fuel, and for one
>>     thing our fuel in the USA now has far lower sulfur than back
>>     then, and for another thing the whole industry moved to a
>>     different alloy that is not susceptible.
>>
>>     Does anyone care what percentage of the fasteners are metric? 
>>     I've been wrenching domestic vehicles that have a mix of SAE and
>>     metric ever since we tried the metric system in the USA back in
>>     the 80's.  It's hardly an issue worth mention.
>>
>>     And several car companies in recent years have paid large fines
>>     for overstating fuel economy.  I'll go out on a limb here and
>>     guess that Ford has incentive to be very truthful with those numbers.
>>
>>
>>     SO
>>
>>     On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:35 AM James Peck
>>     <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Some updates on the 2019 F150 no options pickup I looked at.
>>         Base engine is a 3.3L aluminum block V6 with sprayed in
>>         cylinder liners. The Cleveland engine plant has an attached
>>         aluminum foundry.
>>         Someone somewhere knows what percentage of the fasteners on
>>         the vehicle are metric.
>>         I suspect the combined highway mileage is a tad optimistic.
>>         https://www.wardsauto.com/penton_modal/nojs/forward/50363/0
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