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[Stephen Offiler]

You're absolutely right, Phil... I was just working from flawed memory when
I typed that, and I was in error regarding the date.  What I was really
referring to was that timeframe when we all started seeing speed limit
signs in both MPH and KPH, as well as the speedometers on our cars.  That,
it turns out, was a push by the government that lasted from 1975 to 1982,
per Wikipedia.  So it was a little earlier than the 80's as I stated, but
not a lot.

I'm not sure exactly how to pinpoint the beginning of metrication and it
depends how you define it.  Based on your example of the '72 Pinto, one
could extrapolate that it really started happening when equipment using
metric fasteners started appearing in the USA, and that is much earlier
than 1972.  The Pinto engine was built by Ford Europe and would have been
the primary place you were encountering metric fasteners.  I had a couple
different Mercury Capri's from that same era, which were actually built
entirely in (I believe) Germany, which (I believe) had the same 2-liter
engine.  The Capri's were entirely metric as far as I can recall, and that
would be no surprise.

SO


On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:13 AM Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net> wrote:

> The metrification began before the 80's, Stephen. I owned a '72 Pinto
> Wagon that was mixed SAE and metric. I suspect that every foreign car
> imported into the US was either all metric or a mix, since most of the rest
> of the world has been on the metric system for several decades.
>
> Phil in TX
>
> On 2/23/2020 5:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> Sprayed liners are far from new.  BMW built motorcycle engines with this
> technology back in the 1980's and riders have been know to put 300,000 and
> more miles on those bikes.  There was a time BMW car engines used a similar
> technology and developed a bad reputation.  It was actually due to high
> sulfur fuel, and for one thing our fuel in the USA now has far lower sulfur
> than back then, and for another thing the whole industry moved to a
> different alloy that is not susceptible.
>
> Does anyone care what percentage of the fasteners are metric?  I've been
> wrenching domestic vehicles that have a mix of SAE and metric ever since we
> tried the metric system in the USA back in the 80's.  It's hardly an issue
> worth mention.
>
> And several car companies in recent years have paid large fines for
> overstating fuel economy.  I'll go out on a limb here and guess that Ford
> has incentive to be very truthful with those numbers.
>
>
> SO
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:35 AM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Some updates on the 2019 F150 no options pickup I looked at.
>> Base engine is a 3.3L aluminum block V6 with sprayed in cylinder liners.
>> The Cleveland engine plant has an attached aluminum foundry.
>> Someone somewhere knows what percentage of the fasteners on the vehicle
>> are metric.
>> I suspect the combined highway mileage is a tad optimistic.
>> https://www.wardsauto.com/penton_modal/nojs/forward/50363/0
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