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<p>I had forgotten about the Capri. Yes, it was built by Ford in
Germany. A brown '74 was my son's first car. I worked on that
thing constantly until it blew a head gasket and turned the oil
into a milkshake. I gave it away and got him a used Subaru.
Everything on both cars was metric.</p>
<p>Phil in TX</p>
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<div dir="ltr">You're absolutely right, Phil... I was just
working from flawed memory when I typed that, and I was in
error regarding the date. What I was really referring to was
that timeframe when we all started seeing speed limit signs in
both MPH and KPH, as well as the speedometers on our cars.
That, it turns out, was a push by the government that lasted
from 1975 to 1982, per Wikipedia. So it was a little
earlier than the 80's as I stated, but not a lot.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm not sure exactly how to pinpoint the
beginning of metrication and it depends how you define it.
Based on your example of the '72 Pinto, one could extrapolate
that it really started happening when equipment using metric
fasteners started appearing in the USA, and that is much
earlier than 1972. The Pinto engine was built by Ford Europe
and would have been the primary place you were encountering
metric fasteners. I had a couple different Mercury Capri's
from that same era, which were actually built entirely in (I
believe) Germany, which (I believe) had the same 2-liter
engine. The Capri's were entirely metric as far as I can
recall, and that would be no surprise.<br>
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10:13 AM Phil Auten <<a href="mailto:pga2@basicisp.net"
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<p>The metrification began before the 80's, Stephen. I
owned a '72 Pinto Wagon that was mixed SAE and metric. I
suspect that every foreign car imported into the US was
either all metric or a mix, since most of the rest of
the world has been on the metric system for several
decades.<br>
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<p>Phil in TX<br>
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<div>On 2/23/2020 5:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sprayed liners are far from new. BMW
built motorcycle engines with this technology back in
the 1980's and riders have been know to put 300,000
and more miles on those bikes. There was a time BMW
car engines used a similar technology and developed a
bad reputation. It was actually due to high sulfur
fuel, and for one thing our fuel in the USA now has
far lower sulfur than back then, and for another thing
the whole industry moved to a different alloy that is
not susceptible.
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<div>Does anyone care what percentage of the fasteners
are metric? I've been wrenching domestic vehicles
that have a mix of SAE and metric ever since we
tried the metric system in the USA back in the
80's. It's hardly an issue worth mention.</div>
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<div>And several car companies in recent years have
paid large fines for overstating fuel economy. I'll
go out on a limb here and guess that Ford has
incentive to be very truthful with those numbers.</div>
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at 10:35 AM James Peck <<a
href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>>
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updates on the 2019 F150 no options pickup I
looked at.<br>
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<div>Base engine is a 3.3L aluminum block V6
with sprayed in cylinder liners. The
Cleveland engine plant has an attached
aluminum foundry.</div>
<div>Someone somewhere knows what percentage
of the fasteners on the vehicle are metric.
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<div>I suspect the combined highway mileage is
a tad optimistic.</div>
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