<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">You're absolutely right, Phil... I was just working from flawed memory when I typed that, and I was in error regarding the date. What I was really referring to was that timeframe when we all started seeing speed limit signs in both MPH and KPH, as well as the speedometers on our cars. That, it turns out, was a push by the government that lasted from 1975 to 1982, per Wikipedia. So it was a little earlier than the 80's as I stated, but not a lot.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm not sure exactly how to pinpoint the beginning of metrication and it depends how you define it. Based on your example of the '72 Pinto, one could extrapolate that it really started happening when equipment using metric fasteners started appearing in the USA, and that is much earlier than 1972. The Pinto engine was built by Ford Europe and would have been the primary place you were encountering metric fasteners. I had a couple different Mercury Capri's from that same era, which were actually built entirely in (I believe) Germany, which (I believe) had the same 2-liter engine. The Capri's were entirely metric as far as I can recall, and that would be no surprise.<br></div><div><br></div><div>SO </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:13 AM Phil Auten <<a href="mailto:pga2@basicisp.net">pga2@basicisp.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>The metrification began before the 80's, Stephen. I owned a '72
Pinto Wagon that was mixed SAE and metric. I suspect that every
foreign car imported into the US was either all metric or a mix,
since most of the rest of the world has been on the metric system
for several decades.<br>
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<p>Phil in TX<br>
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<div>On 2/23/2020 5:15 PM, Stephen Offiler
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<div dir="ltr">Sprayed liners are far from new. BMW built
motorcycle engines with this technology back in the 1980's and
riders have been know to put 300,000 and more miles on those
bikes. There was a time BMW car engines used a similar
technology and developed a bad reputation. It was actually due
to high sulfur fuel, and for one thing our fuel in the USA now
has far lower sulfur than back then, and for another thing the
whole industry moved to a different alloy that is not
susceptible.
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<div>Does anyone care what percentage of the fasteners are
metric? I've been wrenching domestic vehicles that have a mix
of SAE and metric ever since we tried the metric system in the
USA back in the 80's. It's hardly an issue worth mention.</div>
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<div>And several car companies in recent years have paid large
fines for overstating fuel economy. I'll go out on a limb
here and guess that Ford has incentive to be very truthful
with those numbers.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:35
AM James Peck <<a href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span><span>Some
updates on the 2019 F150 no options pickup I looked
at.<br>
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<div>Base engine is a 3.3L aluminum block V6 with
sprayed in cylinder liners. The Cleveland engine plant
has an attached aluminum foundry.</div>
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<div>Someone somewhere knows what percentage of the
fasteners on the vehicle are metric. </div>
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<div>I suspect the combined highway mileage is a tad
optimistic.</div>
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