[AT] Statistics In Tractor Manufacturing

[Phil Auten]

Cecil, if the tractor had been used to mow roadsides the operators would 
have been many over the life of the tractor. There's no way that all 
operators treated the tractor the same or if the operators even knew how 
to treat "somebody else's tractor". It would appear to me that tractors 
in that situation get rode hard and put up wet, so to speak. This 
doesn't bode well for longevity, as you well know. It's like my dear ol' 
departed Daddy used to tell me, "Son, take care of your car and it'll 
take care of you".

Phil in TX


On 9/15/2019 9:22 AM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
> From my investigation and experience, I think the tractor was 
> originally sold to a county and used mainly for mowing roadsides or it 
> was used by a contractor mowing highway roadsides for the state.  The 
> state now mows the roadsides again as the contractors could not make 
> enough money doing it.  It was a boondoggle by a former governor who 
> thought he could streamline the ODOT.   They sold all their mowing 
> tractors retired a bunch of mechanics and now 25 years later they are 
> back to mowing.  At 2500 hours on the meter it had a failure that 
> usually happened with that engine at 8000 hours.   Several of these 
> tractors have been in service in the UK with over 14000 hours on them 
> and no major repairs.
>
> The OKla DOT specifies a single axle IHC dump truck that is their main 
> utility vehicle.   It has a 4 yd bed with a 5 speed trans and a 2spd 
> 30K +/- axle geared for 60mph top speed.  Then use a DT360 diesel 
> engine.  Most would spec the DT466 engine, but with the DT360 and the 
> low gearing the truck will last over 600000 miles in severe service.  
> I have loaded 7 yds of shale on mine and hauled it for short distances.
>
> Cecil
>
> On 9/15/2019 8:23 AM, James Peck wrote:
>> It was probably a money pit from day one. All the fraudulent actions 
>> they undertook were to get out from under it.
>>
>> [Cecil Bearden] The New Holland Money Pit is what it is because 
>> somewhere in its history the hour meter was turned back.  New tires 
>> were installed and it was made to look like a 5 yr. old tractor with 
>> about 200 hrs. per year.
>>
>> [ James Peck] <snip> The same (Weibull] distribution probably 
>> predicts that Cecil’s New Holland money pit will continue to be so 
>> and will suffer an early demise. <snip>
>>
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