[AT] 1970's farm equipment

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Fri Oct 25 10:16:20 PDT 2019



On 10/25/2019 10:00 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
> Speaking of beeps... Does anyone know where the OBD2 code reader plug
> is located on a 1948 John Deere A ?  :-)

On the A it's right next to the flux capacitor, hope this helps.

Mike M
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> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:39 AM Brian Lesh <lesh at kci.net
> <mailto:lesh at kci.net>> wrote:
>
>     I've been running newer combine lately.  The computer beeps at me,
>     tells me there's things wrong that aren't and freeze's up once in
>     awhile.  It's time to get the old Ih W9 out and drag the yard.
>
>     I know how to start it and the old girl never beeps at me.
>
>     On 10/22/2019 8:36 AM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>     Tractor related?????????
>>
>>     Some how we've gone from Antique Tractors.
>>     To discussing (bragging) about all
>>     the engineering courses we've taken or should have.
>>     To offshore manufacturing quality.
>>     To the help line accents.
>>     And now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.
>>     Could have, would have installed. up grading, what have you.
>>
>>     Not much tractor related stuff in the last few days.
>>
>>     My 1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.
>>     It does have any software needing to be upgraded.
>>     No help line available or needed.
>>     And you don't need to be an engineer to figure how it works.
>>
>>
>>
>>     $-------&
>>     Moe F.
>>
>>
>>     Ontario, Canada
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM ustonThomas Mehrkam
>>     <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net <mailto:tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         In the 70s we all had to take corporate value engineering
>>         classes. "How to engineer all the value out." Some people did
>>         not have enough sense it ignore the BS.
>>
>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>
>>             On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 7:08 AM, Thomas Mehrkam
>>             <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net <mailto:tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net>>
>>             wrote:
>>             Windows 10 convinced me it was time to retire.
>>
>>             I developed software mainly for Unix and Linux with some
>>             Vax VMS?? DX10
>>             one of T.Is systems and many real time OS for Motorola
>>             68000, TI 9900,
>>             Power PC etc.?? Much of the early work in machine
>>             language. With some
>>             Windoze thrown in. XP and 7 was ok.?? Almost great
>>             compared to XP.
>>
>>             XP convinced me it was time to retire. The worse of
>>             Microsoft's crap
>>             OS's. Even worse than writing assembly and Cobal for
>>             Univac 1108
>>             systems. :-{?? We built a Seismic Acquisition system that
>>             could record
>>             data from 40,000 stations at a 2MS sample rate.?? XP
>>             brought that to a
>>             stand still. The network stack sucked we went down to
>>             maybe 5,000
>>             stations. :-{
>>
>>
>>             On 10/21/2019 11:45 AM, Phil Auten wrote:
>>             > I usually need to write stuff like that down, and I
>>             am/was a
>>             > computer/IT tech. Now, where'd I put my pencil?
>>             >
>>             > I've been out of the computer biz,except for fixing my
>>             own, since 2011
>>             > and I am amazed how much it has changed since then. I
>>             have two working
>>             > computers, both laptops. The one I am on now is the
>>             newest and it is
>>             > running Vista (yuck). The other one is about a 2006
>>             model and runs XP.
>>             > That one I need to redo and load Linux so it will keep up.
>>             >
>>             > Phil in TX
>>             >
>>             >
>>             > On 10/20/2019 11:39 PM, deanvp at att.net
>>             <mailto:deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>             >> James,
>>             >>
>>             >> ?? Every time I go shopping at the local Costco I
>>             marvel at how many
>>             >> foreigners we have here in WA?? I'm sure driven by the
>>             High Tech
>>             >> industries
>>             >> like Microsoft and Amazon. It used to be the
>>             Oriental's that were
>>             >> predominate. Now it seems to be East Indians. I'm sure
>>             much of our
>>             >> technical
>>             >> knowledge is eventually ending up back in India.??
>>             However, that
>>             >> doesn't seem
>>             >> to apply to those who work in the technical support
>>             groups we call
>>             >> for help.
>>             >> I have completely given up on calling any kind of help
>>             line for
>>             >> anything.
>>             >> First because they really don't know very much and
>>             secondly their accent
>>             >> combined with my loss of hearing makes understanding
>>             them almost
>>             >> impossible.
>>             >> I will work Google search until I find the answer I'm
>>             looking for. I
>>             >> just
>>             >> went through that recently.?? Some time in the past I
>>             changed from double
>>             >> click to single click file opening on my mouse. Long
>>             enough ago I had
>>             >> forgotten how I did it.?? For me the obvious place to
>>             look was on the
>>             >> setup
>>             >> of the mouse. Wrong.?? I put up with the change far
>>             too long and
>>             >> finally I
>>             >> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how to fix it.
>>             Google came to the
>>             >> rescue.
>>             >> In Win 10. one has to get into File Explorer, view,
>>             options, change
>>             >> options
>>             >> to get to that setting.?? How in the hell I found that
>>             the first time is
>>             >> beyond me?? But all is now cool again.???? Simple but
>>             frustrating.
>>             >>
>>             >> Dean VP
>>             >> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>             >>
>>             >> -----Original Message-----
>>             >> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>             <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> On Behalf
>>             Of James Peck
>>             >> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:18 AM
>>             >> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>             >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
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>>             >> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment
>>             >>
>>             >> I worked for a GM division a little in the late
>>             sixties. The focus
>>             >> then was
>>             >> on making all components so they ended their life at
>>             10 years. The items
>>             >> that lasted longer were made too well.
>>             >>
>>             >> [Henry Miller] The 1970s when efficiency experts ruled
>>             every thing
>>             >> with the
>>             >> bean counters. Cut cost and quality were number one.
>>             The auto world
>>             >> had it
>>             >> worse than most because they suddenly had to meet
>>             emissions rules
>>             >> that they
>>             >> didn't really know how to do and so rube Goldberg
>>             contraptions were
>>             >> designed
>>             >> to that standard with predictable results.
>>             >>
>>             >> Modern just in time is often very inefficient, but the
>>             cost savings
>>             >> elsewhere make it vastly more cost effective.
>>             Consumers have also
>>             >> caught on
>>             >> to the idea that quality is sometimes worth paying
>>             for. Where the above
>>             >> doesn't apply is a race to the bottom that we can't
>>             win. China, like
>>             >> Taiwan
>>             >> and Japan before them is starting to drop out of the
>>             game. Africa is
>>             >> probably next in my opinion: Vietnam and Pakistan play
>>             a bit but they
>>             >> are
>>             >> not large enough and to beat China and they are not
>>             far behind China
>>             >> into
>>             >> getting out of that hole. India could win for a while,
>>             but they have
>>             >> a lot
>>             >> of smart people who know how to make quality (training
>>             on the job in
>>             >> the US
>>             >> or Europe) and would rather skip the cheap junk period.
>>             >>
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