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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/25/2019 10:00 AM, Indiana
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<div>Speaking of beeps... Does anyone know where the OBD2 code
reader plug is located on a 1948 John Deere A ? :-)</div>
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On the A it's right next to the flux capacitor, hope this helps.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:39
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<p>I've been running newer combine lately. The computer
beeps at me, tells me there's things wrong that aren't and
freeze's up once in awhile. It's time to get the old Ih
W9 out and drag the yard.</p>
<p>I know how to start it and the old girl never beeps at
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<div>On 10/22/2019 8:36 AM, Moe Fretz wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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related?????????</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">Some
how we've gone from Antique Tractors.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">To
discussing (bragging) about all</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">the
engineering courses we've taken or should have.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">To
offshore manufacturing quality.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">To
the help line accents.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">And
now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">Could
have, would have installed. up grading, what have you.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">Not
much tractor related stuff in the last few days.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">It
does have any software needing to be upgraded.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">No
help line available or needed.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(166,77,121)">And
you don't need to be an engineer to figure how it
works.</div>
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Windows 10 convinced me it was time to retire.<br
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I developed software mainly for Unix and Linux
with some Vax VMS?? DX10 <br clear="none">
one of T.Is systems and many real time OS for
Motorola 68000, TI 9900, <br clear="none">
Power PC etc.?? Much of the early work in machine
language. With some <br clear="none">
Windoze thrown in. XP and 7 was ok.?? Almost great
compared to XP.<br clear="none">
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XP convinced me it was time to retire. The worse
of Microsoft's crap <br clear="none">
OS's. Even worse than writing assembly and Cobal
for Univac 1108 <br clear="none">
systems. :-{?? We built a Seismic Acquisition
system that could record <br clear="none">
data from 40,000 stations at a 2MS sample rate.??
XP brought that to a <br clear="none">
stand still. The network stack sucked we went down
to maybe 5,000 <br clear="none">
stations. :-{<br clear="none">
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On 10/21/2019 11:45 AM, Phil Auten wrote:<br
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> I usually need to write stuff like that down,
and I am/was a <br clear="none">
> computer/IT tech. Now, where'd I put my
pencil?<br clear="none">
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> I've been out of the computer biz,except for
fixing my own, since 2011 <br clear="none">
> and I am amazed how much it has changed since
then. I have two working <br clear="none">
> computers, both laptops. The one I am on now
is the newest and it is <br clear="none">
> running Vista (yuck). The other one is about
a 2006 model and runs XP. <br clear="none">
> That one I need to redo and load Linux so it
will keep up.<br clear="none">
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> Phil in TX<br clear="none">
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> On 10/20/2019 11:39 PM, <a
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>> James,<br clear="none">
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>> ?? Every time I go shopping at the local
Costco I marvel at how many<br clear="none">
>> foreigners we have here in WA?? I'm sure
driven by the High Tech <br clear="none">
>> industries<br clear="none">
>> like Microsoft and Amazon. It used to be
the Oriental's that were<br clear="none">
>> predominate. Now it seems to be East
Indians. I'm sure much of our <br clear="none">
>> technical<br clear="none">
>> knowledge is eventually ending up back in
India.?? However, that <br clear="none">
>> doesn't seem<br clear="none">
>> to apply to those who work in the
technical support groups we call <br clear="none">
>> for help.<br clear="none">
>> I have completely given up on calling any
kind of help line for <br clear="none">
>> anything.<br clear="none">
>> First because they really don't know very
much and secondly their accent<br clear="none">
>> combined with my loss of hearing makes
understanding them almost <br clear="none">
>> impossible.<br clear="none">
>> I will work Google search until I find
the answer I'm looking for. I <br clear="none">
>> just<br clear="none">
>> went through that recently.?? Some time
in the past I changed from double<br clear="none">
>> click to single click file opening on my
mouse. Long enough ago I had<br clear="none">
>> forgotten how I did it.?? For me the
obvious place to look was on the <br clear="none">
>> setup<br clear="none">
>> of the mouse. Wrong.?? I put up with the
change far too long and <br clear="none">
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>> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how
to fix it. Google came to the <br clear="none">
>> rescue.<br clear="none">
>> In Win 10. one has to get into File
Explorer, view, options, change <br clear="none">
>> options<br clear="none">
>> to get to that setting.?? How in the hell
I found that the first time is<br clear="none">
>> beyond me?? But all is now cool
again.???? Simple but frustrating.<br clear="none">
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>> Dean VP<br clear="none">
>> Snohomish, WA 98290<br clear="none">
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>> From: AT <<a
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>> I worked for a GM division a little in
the late sixties. The focus <br clear="none">
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>> on making all components so they ended
their life at 10 years. The items<br clear="none">
>> that lasted longer were made too well.<br
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Pakistan play a bit but they <br clear="none">
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they are not far behind China <br clear="none">
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>> getting out of that hole. India could win
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>> of smart people who know how to make
quality (training on the job in <br clear="none">
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