[AT] 1970's farm equipment

Fri Oct 25 07:00:10 PDT 2019

Speaking of beeps... Does anyone know where the OBD2 code reader plug is
located on a 1948 John Deere A ?  :-)

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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:39 AM Brian Lesh <lesh at kci.net> wrote:

> I've been running newer combine lately.  The computer beeps at me, tells
> me there's things wrong that aren't and freeze's up once in awhile.  It's
> time to get the old Ih W9 out and drag the yard.
>
> I know how to start it and the old girl never beeps at me.
> On 10/22/2019 8:36 AM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>
> Tractor related?????????
>
> Some how we've gone from Antique Tractors.
> To discussing (bragging) about all
> the engineering courses we've taken or should have.
> To offshore manufacturing quality.
> To the help line accents.
> And now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.
> Could have, would have installed. up grading, what have you.
>
> Not much tractor related stuff in the last few days.
>
> My 1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.
> It does have any software needing to be upgraded.
> No help line available or needed.
> And you don't need to be an engineer to figure how it works.
>
>
>
> $-------&
> Moe F.
>
>
> Ontario, Canada
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM ustonThomas Mehrkam <
> tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> In the 70s we all had to take corporate value engineering classes. "How
>> to engineer all the value out." Some people did not have enough sense it
>> ignore the BS.
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 7:08 AM, Thomas Mehrkam
>> <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Windows 10 convinced me it was time to retire.
>>
>> I developed software mainly for Unix and Linux with some Vax VMS?? DX10
>> one of T.Is systems and many real time OS for Motorola 68000, TI 9900,
>> Power PC etc.?? Much of the early work in machine language. With some
>> Windoze thrown in. XP and 7 was ok.?? Almost great compared to XP.
>>
>> XP convinced me it was time to retire. The worse of Microsoft's crap
>> OS's. Even worse than writing assembly and Cobal for Univac 1108
>> systems. :-{?? We built a Seismic Acquisition system that could record
>> data from 40,000 stations at a 2MS sample rate.?? XP brought that to a
>> stand still. The network stack sucked we went down to maybe 5,000
>> stations. :-{
>>
>>
>> On 10/21/2019 11:45 AM, Phil Auten wrote:
>> > I usually need to write stuff like that down, and I am/was a
>> > computer/IT tech. Now, where'd I put my pencil?
>> >
>> > I've been out of the computer biz,except for fixing my own, since 2011
>> > and I am amazed how much it has changed since then. I have two working
>> > computers, both laptops. The one I am on now is the newest and it is
>> > running Vista (yuck). The other one is about a 2006 model and runs XP.
>> > That one I need to redo and load Linux so it will keep up.
>> >
>> > Phil in TX
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/20/2019 11:39 PM, deanvp at att.net wrote:
>> >> James,
>> >>
>> >> ?? Every time I go shopping at the local Costco I marvel at how many
>> >> foreigners we have here in WA?? I'm sure driven by the High Tech
>> >> industries
>> >> like Microsoft and Amazon. It used to be the Oriental's that were
>> >> predominate. Now it seems to be East Indians. I'm sure much of our
>> >> technical
>> >> knowledge is eventually ending up back in India.?? However, that
>> >> doesn't seem
>> >> to apply to those who work in the technical support groups we call
>> >> for help.
>> >> I have completely given up on calling any kind of help line for
>> >> anything.
>> >> First because they really don't know very much and secondly their
>> accent
>> >> combined with my loss of hearing makes understanding them almost
>> >> impossible.
>> >> I will work Google search until I find the answer I'm looking for. I
>> >> just
>> >> went through that recently.?? Some time in the past I changed from
>> double
>> >> click to single click file opening on my mouse. Long enough ago I had
>> >> forgotten how I did it.?? For me the obvious place to look was on the
>> >> setup
>> >> of the mouse. Wrong.?? I put up with the change far too long and
>> >> finally I
>> >> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how to fix it. Google came to the
>> >> rescue.
>> >> In Win 10. one has to get into File Explorer, view, options, change
>> >> options
>> >> to get to that setting.?? How in the hell I found that the first time
>> is
>> >> beyond me?? But all is now cool again.???? Simple but frustrating.
>> >>
>> >> Dean VP
>> >> Snohomish, WA 98290
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of James
>> Peck
>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:18 AM
>> >> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
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>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment
>> >>
>> >> I worked for a GM division a little in the late sixties. The focus
>> >> then was
>> >> on making all components so they ended their life at 10 years. The
>> items
>> >> that lasted longer were made too well.
>> >>
>> >> [Henry Miller] The 1970s when efficiency experts ruled every thing
>> >> with the
>> >> bean counters. Cut cost and quality were number one. The auto world
>> >> had it
>> >> worse than most because they suddenly had to meet emissions rules
>> >> that they
>> >> didn't really know how to do and so rube Goldberg contraptions were
>> >> designed
>> >> to that standard with predictable results.
>> >>
>> >> Modern just in time is often very inefficient, but the cost savings
>> >> elsewhere make it vastly more cost effective. Consumers have also
>> >> caught on
>> >> to the idea that quality is sometimes worth paying for. Where the above
>> >> doesn't apply is a race to the bottom that we can't win. China, like
>> >> Taiwan
>> >> and Japan before them is starting to drop out of the game. Africa is
>> >> probably next in my opinion: Vietnam and Pakistan play a bit but they
>> >> are
>> >> not large enough and to beat China and they are not far behind China
>> >> into
>> >> getting out of that hole. India could win for a while, but they have
>> >> a lot
>> >> of smart people who know how to make quality (training on the job in
>> >> the US
>> >> or Europe) and would rather skip the cheap junk period.
>> >>
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