[AT] tractor hauling truck
Brian Lesh
lesh at kci.net
Wed Nov 27 06:56:31 PST 2019
For only a hundred dollar deposit I would imagine a lot of people that
got on the list will never actually get one or will sell there spot on
the list in the future for more money or 185000 was released by the
marketer just to fuel interest. (not sure you fuel interest with
electricity or fossil fuel)
Brian
On 11/27/2019 7:35 AM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
>
> I had to build a special bobtail truck to pull my gooseneck trailers
> since my "new" 3/4 ton bed is so high the gooseneck is not high enough.
> Cecil
>
> On 11/27/2019 8:29 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> Given the makeup of ATIS - people who are fans of old farm tractors -
>> I'd be pretty surprised to find anyone here who truly likes it.
>>
>> But on my Facebook feed, I am seeing some small fraction of my
>> friends who DO like it. Demographics on my group of friends there
>> are FAR more broad, in terms of age, education, socio-economic
>> status, political orientation, etc. Still a smal fraction by my
>> completely informal estimation. Now take 180,000 and divide by the
>> number of vehicles sold annually in the USA, call it 18 million. So,
>> 1/1000. Yeah, that sounds about right. How many of them are hauling
>> kids to soccer practice, and how many of them are farmers and
>> tradespeople who actually need a pickup?
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net
>> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I got an email yesterday saying that they already had orders for
>> over 180K of those ugly electric "pickups"...
>> Cecil
>>
>> On 11/27/2019 5:17 AM, Mattias Kessén wrote:
>>> I can't even imagine how someone even can come up with the idea
>>> of something that ugly.
>>>
>>> Reminds me of when Honda were gonna begin marketing the new
>>> Honda Fitta. Later called Jazz in Europe and (I believe) Fit in
>>> the rest of the world. They've even made brochures with the
>>> slogan "Small on the outside, big on the inside". Problem is
>>> that fitta in swedish means cunt. All scandinavians and many
>>> people in northern Europe knows that.
>>> I think you all can imagine how many funny "car tests" that were
>>> made from that... I was takin' the .... for a ride. It was a
>>> pleasant... etc.
>>>
>>> Med vänlig hälsning
>>>
>>> Mattias Kessén
>>>
>>> Hässelstad Solhöjden 2
>>> 594 93 Gamleby
>>>
>>> 070-523 59 00
>>>
>>>
>>> Den lör 23 nov. 2019 kl 03:13 skrev Stephen Offiler
>>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>> I am sort of a Luddite. Well, at least, I'm the opposite of
>>> an "early adopter" consumer. Late adopter I guess?
>>>
>>> The idea of electric vehicles gives me range anxiety.
>>> That's a real thing, a concept explored by GM with
>>> their EV-1. Remember that electric car? They built 1000
>>> and leased them so they could get them all back. It was a
>>> giant engineering experiment that I found brilliant. But a
>>> whole bunch of environmentalists who didn't grasp that
>>> concept hate GM to this day because they couldn't keep their
>>> EV-1. I guess they didn't read the fine print.
>>>
>>> Anyway, you can keep your electric cars (and now trucks)
>>> until they cost on par with a petrol-fueled equivalent, and
>>> recharge more rapidly than they do now, and charging
>>> stations are everywhere. I refuse to accept less
>>> convenience and less utility for higher cost.
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:42 PM Cecil Bearden
>>> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That trip range does not take into account running the
>>> air conditioner, heater, defroster, Wipers and
>>> lights.... My wife & I bought some Dewalt electric
>>> heated coats on sale a couple of years ago. They were
>>> just barely more than the regular price of a battery and
>>> included a 12 and 115 volt charger and an adapter for
>>> USB to charge your phone. They sold out along the east
>>> Coast for the folks using them to commute and could not
>>> keep warm in the Chevy Volt and Toyota Prius when
>>> running lights heater defroster and wipers in snow while
>>> commuting to work..
>>> When that cost per mile is figured in does it take into
>>> consideration the battery life and the replacement
>>> cost. I talked to a Prius owner who had a 2 yr old one
>>> on the original battery and was looking to trade it in
>>> for a new one as the battery cost was a small fortune...
>>> On another note, my Polaris Ranger 1000cc with EFI is
>>> the hardest thing on the place to start when the temp is
>>> under 45deg. After the dealer tuning it up and changing
>>> oil, it still is the hardest thing to start on the
>>> planet... I bought a couple of plugs this afternoon
>>> to make sure the dealer changed them....
>>> I wish I had bought a Kubota Diesel with A/C. The more
>>> I deal with gasoline engines the more I want to convert
>>> them to propane or diesel. I'm thinking seriously of
>>> adapting my "new" skid steer to propane. It has a VG4d
>>> Wisconsin. I have an air cooled heat exchanger for up
>>> to 60hp. The tank would add counterbalance weight.
>>> Cecil
>>>
>>> On 11/22/2019 5:44 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>>> I just wonder how many fully charged cell phones it
>>>> will take to "limp it home" if it gets totally
>>>> discharged. 😀
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:39 AM Stephen Offiler
>>>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Agreed. When I saw the "Tri-motor AWD" with
>>>> sub 2.9 sec 0-60 and a claimed 500 mi range, I was
>>>> thinking that's got to be a huge battery and
>>>> expected Model-S level pricetag.
>>>>
>>>> My earlier comment assumes we have more than a few
>>>> List members willing to voice an opinion on
>>>> newfangled electric vehicle technology.
>>>>
>>>> SO
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:32 AM Spencer Yost
>>>> <spencer at rdfarms.com <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What? Everyone needs a tractor hauling truck.
>>>> Even if it’s too fancy for its own good, is
>>>> super ugly, has terrible range, and cost too
>>>> much. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Actually the cost was a tad less than I
>>>> expected. I did notice the three engine/tow
>>>> ratings were designed to approximate a half
>>>> ton, three-quarter ton, and 1 ton trucks.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Stephen Offiler
>>>>> <soffiler at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh boy... here we go... and Spencer started it!
>>>>>
>>>>> SO
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:13 AM Spencer Yost
>>>>> <spencer at rdfarms.com
>>>>> <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Super ugly:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
>>>>>
>>>>> But I’m sure sometime in the next 4 to 6
>>>>> years we will see one in Portland with an
>>>>> antique tractor behind it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m sure the range will stink while
>>>>> towing; at least at first. But I’ll bet
>>>>> towing with electric motors would probably
>>>>> be pretty awesome. Would not mind trying
>>>>> it once.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer
>>>>>
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