[AT] tractor hauling truck
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Wed Nov 27 06:35:48 PST 2019
I had to build a special bobtail truck to pull my gooseneck trailers
since my "new" 3/4 ton bed is so high the gooseneck is not high enough.
Cecil
On 11/27/2019 8:29 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Given the makeup of ATIS - people who are fans of old farm tractors -
> I'd be pretty surprised to find anyone here who truly likes it.
>
> But on my Facebook feed, I am seeing some small fraction of my friends
> who DO like it. Demographics on my group of friends there are FAR
> more broad, in terms of age, education, socio-economic status,
> political orientation, etc. Still a smal fraction by my completely
> informal estimation. Now take 180,000 and divide by the number of
> vehicles sold annually in the USA, call it 18 million. So, 1/1000.
> Yeah, that sounds about right. How many of them are hauling kids to
> soccer practice, and how many of them are farmers and tradespeople who
> actually need a pickup?
>
> SO
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
> I got an email yesterday saying that they already had orders for
> over 180K of those ugly electric "pickups"...
> Cecil
>
> On 11/27/2019 5:17 AM, Mattias Kessén wrote:
>> I can't even imagine how someone even can come up with the idea
>> of something that ugly.
>>
>> Reminds me of when Honda were gonna begin marketing the new Honda
>> Fitta. Later called Jazz in Europe and (I believe) Fit in the
>> rest of the world. They've even made brochures with the slogan
>> "Small on the outside, big on the inside". Problem is that fitta
>> in swedish means cunt. All scandinavians and many people in
>> northern Europe knows that.
>> I think you all can imagine how many funny "car tests" that were
>> made from that... I was takin' the .... for a ride. It was a
>> pleasant... etc.
>>
>> Med vänlig hälsning
>>
>> Mattias Kessén
>>
>> Hässelstad Solhöjden 2
>> 594 93 Gamleby
>>
>> 070-523 59 00
>>
>>
>> Den lör 23 nov. 2019 kl 03:13 skrev Stephen Offiler
>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> I am sort of a Luddite. Well, at least, I'm the opposite of
>> an "early adopter" consumer. Late adopter I guess?
>>
>> The idea of electric vehicles gives me range anxiety. That's
>> a real thing, a concept explored by GM with their EV-1.
>> Remember that electric car? They built 1000 and leased them
>> so they could get them all back. It was a giant engineering
>> experiment that I found brilliant. But a whole bunch of
>> environmentalists who didn't grasp that concept hate GM to
>> this day because they couldn't keep their EV-1. I guess they
>> didn't read the fine print.
>>
>> Anyway, you can keep your electric cars (and now trucks)
>> until they cost on par with a petrol-fueled equivalent, and
>> recharge more rapidly than they do now, and charging stations
>> are everywhere. I refuse to accept less convenience and less
>> utility for higher cost.
>>
>> SO
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:42 PM Cecil Bearden
>> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>
>> That trip range does not take into account running the
>> air conditioner, heater, defroster, Wipers and
>> lights.... My wife & I bought some Dewalt electric
>> heated coats on sale a couple of years ago. They were
>> just barely more than the regular price of a battery and
>> included a 12 and 115 volt charger and an adapter for USB
>> to charge your phone. They sold out along the east Coast
>> for the folks using them to commute and could not keep
>> warm in the Chevy Volt and Toyota Prius when running
>> lights heater defroster and wipers in snow while
>> commuting to work..
>> When that cost per mile is figured in does it take into
>> consideration the battery life and the replacement cost.
>> I talked to a Prius owner who had a 2 yr old one on the
>> original battery and was looking to trade it in for a new
>> one as the battery cost was a small fortune...
>> On another note, my Polaris Ranger 1000cc with EFI is the
>> hardest thing on the place to start when the temp is
>> under 45deg. After the dealer tuning it up and
>> changing oil, it still is the hardest thing to start on
>> the planet... I bought a couple of plugs this
>> afternoon to make sure the dealer changed them....
>> I wish I had bought a Kubota Diesel with A/C. The more I
>> deal with gasoline engines the more I want to convert
>> them to propane or diesel. I'm thinking seriously of
>> adapting my "new" skid steer to propane. It has a VG4d
>> Wisconsin. I have an air cooled heat exchanger for up to
>> 60hp. The tank would add counterbalance weight.
>> Cecil
>>
>> On 11/22/2019 5:44 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>> I just wonder how many fully charged cell phones it will
>>> take to "limp it home" if it gets totally discharged. 😀
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:39 AM Stephen Offiler
>>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> LOL! Agreed. When I saw the "Tri-motor AWD" with
>>> sub 2.9 sec 0-60 and a claimed 500 mi range, I was
>>> thinking that's got to be a huge battery and
>>> expected Model-S level pricetag.
>>>
>>> My earlier comment assumes we have more than a few
>>> List members willing to voice an opinion on
>>> newfangled electric vehicle technology.
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:32 AM Spencer Yost
>>> <spencer at rdfarms.com <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What? Everyone needs a tractor hauling truck.
>>> Even if it’s too fancy for its own good, is
>>> super ugly, has terrible range, and cost too
>>> much. :-)
>>>
>>> Actually the cost was a tad less than I
>>> expected. I did notice the three engine/tow
>>> ratings were designed to approximate a half ton,
>>> three-quarter ton, and 1 ton trucks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Stephen Offiler
>>>> <soffiler at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh boy... here we go... and Spencer started it!
>>>>
>>>> SO
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:13 AM Spencer Yost
>>>> <spencer at rdfarms.com
>>>> <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Super ugly:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
>>>>
>>>> But I’m sure sometime in the next 4 to 6
>>>> years we will see one in Portland with an
>>>> antique tractor behind it.
>>>>
>>>> I’m sure the range will stink while towing;
>>>> at least at first. But I’ll bet towing with
>>>> electric motors would probably be pretty
>>>> awesome. Would not mind trying it once.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
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