[AT] [External] Caution: antique tractor usage

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Thu Jul 25 12:20:31 PDT 2019


Can't speak for auto parts Steve, but I sold V-belts wholesale for a
while years ago, and if you knew the markup on those, you'd fall out of
your chair.

Mike M


On 7/25/2019 3:04 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> I'm on a first-name basis with the owner and one of the longtime
> counter men at my local NAPA.  I'm not sure how the price breaks work,
> but typically they give me a list price and then "my" price which is
> significantly lower, usually 10-20% percent.  I can't say for sure
> that isn't just some marketing ploy they tell everybody, but like
> Spencer, I like to think relationships matter.
>
> SO
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 1:46 PM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com
> <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>
>     Went at lunch to to get the bearing and it’s an exact match.  SKF
>     brand and $43.   I said he wasn’t charging me enough because I was
>     quoted $49 and he said “Na, just cutting you a break.  You buy all
>     your sh at t here”
>
>     Relationships matter...
>
>     Now just got to find a stopping point here at work so I can press
>     it in and roll.
>
>     Spencer Yost
>
>     On Jul 25, 2019, at 8:22 AM, David Myers
>     <walking_tractor at yahoo.com <mailto:walking_tractor at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>>     Don't remember if it has been brought up recently but Cecils post
>>     reminded me of this.  You have to be very careful with pillow
>>     bloic bearings when replacing the bearing itself.  Aisian
>>     bearings generally have the grease hole in a different location
>>     than our standard blocks and therefore can't normally be lubed
>>     once installed.  I have used a die grinder  in an emergency to
>>     provide a pathway but not what I like to do.
>>     David
>>     On Thursday, July 25, 2019, 08:15:05 AM EDT, Cecil Bearden
>>     <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Just a note FYI, there are pillow blocks that use a flat OD
>>     bearing as they are not self aligning pillow blocks.  Self align
>>     blocks are higher priced..   The bearing holder in the case of a
>>     PTO shaft is really a trunnion mount if we want to be technically
>>     accurate.
>>     Cecil
>>
>>     On 7/24/2019 11:41 PM, Mark Greer wrote:
>>     207KRR is not a pillow block insert bearing. It has a cylindrical
>>     OD where a pillow block insert has a spherical OD.
>>
>>     On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:59 PM <bradloomis at charter.net
>>     <mailto:bradloomis at charter.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Fafnir was a biggie at one time. Installed a lot of
>>         replacement pillow blocks in fans a lifetime ago. I guess
>>         there isn’t a 6 in grunge. You can always mic the OD, ID and
>>         width in MM and look up that way. And of course Google is our
>>         friend! Is that in a pillow block? Shows as an insert bearing
>>
>>         https://www.123bearing.com/housed-bearing-207-KRR-AH03-INA.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpJTqgYjP4wIVEsZkCh1cwQLIEAQYASABEgKuivD_BwE
>>
>>         Brad
>>
>>         *From:*AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>         <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> *On Behalf Of
>>         *Spencer Yost
>>         *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 7:36 PM
>>         *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>         <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>         <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>>         *Subject:* Re: [AT] [External] Caution: antique tractor usage
>>
>>         The name/numbers are “fafnir” “207krr”.   As I understand it
>>         Fafnir(which I have never heard of of before) is now Timken
>>         and that number seemed available at several online outlets
>>         but only NAPA could get it locally.   We used to have a
>>         Bearings Distributors locally but they closed up.  We have a
>>         Graingers locally but the web site said they don’t have it.
>>
>>         If I need something for haymaking that is almost always
>>         right, quality, and in stock I go to Messicks but they ain’t
>>         cheap and then there is the shipping delay and costs.  Plus I
>>         haven’t lost time if the one at NAPA isn’t right.   The
>>         bearing at Messicks can still ship out tomorrow.
>>
>>         Spencer Yost
>>
>>
>>         On Jul 24, 2019, at 9:22 PM, <bradloomis at charter.net
>>         <mailto:bradloomis at charter.net>> <bradloomis at charter.net
>>         <mailto:bradloomis at charter.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             Appears to be a 6207 shielded, both sides I would assume.
>>             No zerk. McMaster.com <http://McMaster.com> if someone is
>>             away from a store. I’d get sealed both sides but shielded
>>             is OK as well. Very common size in 15HP electric motors
>>             on the fan end. We had a drawer full of bearings at the
>>             wine factory.
>>
>>             Brad
>>
>>             *From:*AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>             <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> *On Behalf
>>             Of *Cecil Bearden
>>             *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:11 PM
>>             *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>             <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>             *Subject:* Re: [AT] [External] Caution: antique tractor usage
>>
>>             Spencer, I don't want to brag, but I think I have one or
>>             2 of those in my bearing stash.   Back in the 90's when
>>             Bailey's had a lot of cheap bearings I ordered about
>>             $2000 worth of bearings to have in case something broke.
>>             Now the problem is just finding them....
>>             Cecil
>>
>>             On 7/24/2019 6:03 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>
>>                 Well, the curse of old equipment struck me. The
>>                 carrier bearing of the PTO shaft on the mower
>>                 conditioner locked up. Amazing how a little bearing
>>                 can make that kinda of a racket and pretty much stop
>>                 an entire 50hp diesel tractor.  Only got about 1.5
>>                 acres mowed before this happened.
>>
>>                 Managed to get the carrier off the mower, managed to
>>                 get the rusty snap ring out, managed to press out the
>>                 bearing, and found to my surprise it something the
>>                 Napa carries. They’ll  have it in the local store
>>                 tomorrow by lunch. 49$; and while Messicks is $45 and
>>                 there would be shipping and a delay.
>>
>>                 This model was manufactured from 1968-1972.  Judging
>>                 by the paint it is original equipment, so I guess 47
>>                 to 51 years of service is acceptable :-)
>>
>>                 Hopefully I won’t run out of sunshine.
>>
>>                 <image001.jpg>
>>
>>                 Spencer Yost
>>
>>
>>                 On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:35 PM, Gunnells, Brad R
>>                 <brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu
>>                 <mailto:brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>                     That's a forecast that will make a man smile if
>>                     he's trying to bale. 😊
>>
>>                     Brad
>>
>>                     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>                     *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>                     <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> on
>>                     behalf of Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com
>>                     <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>>
>>                     *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 7:45:10 PM
>>                     *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>                     <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>                     <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>                     <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>>                     *Subject:* [External] [AT] Caution: antique
>>                     tractor usage
>>
>>                     I’m no haying professional but I’d say I have a
>>                     spell of weather suitable for cutting and baling
>>                     with my old tractors ....
>>
>>                     <Image-1.jpg>
>>
>>
>>
>>                     Spencer Yost
>>
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