[AT] Big Truck Pickups

[Stephen Offiler]

Hold on a second there Mark.  Since I've already stated my position as a
proponent of Lean/TPS, I should probably play devil's advocate here.  You
imply the application of TPS has caused financial difficulties.  I suspect
the reality is the financial difficulties came first, TPS was perhaps one
of many tools employed to turn the barge around, and we have no way of
knowing whether the decline might have been even worse had they not tried
TPS.

SO

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:30 AM Mark Johnson <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>
wrote:

> A former employer (3-letter IT company with a 100+ year history, otherwise
> to remain nameless) has been trying to apply TPS to information technology
> services. Its NYSE stock price should tell you how successful they have
> been...
>
> Mark J
>
> Columbia, MO
> On 11/30/2019 7:27 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> Absolutely. The Toyota Production System (TPS) is studied around the world
> and applied in every imaginable industry as "Lean Manufacturing" and in
> service industries like hospitals as simply "Lean".
>
> I have a couple decades of experience with Lean Mfg. and I would count
> myself as a proponent although I've also seen some of the Achilles' Heels.
> It is a very collaborative system at its core, and won't work well unless
> the entire workforce is engaged.  In short what I'm saying is that I cannot
> imagine a UAW shop embracing Lean.
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 7:42 AM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Toyota does a really good job at controlling the manufacturing process.
>> Not so good at the attractive design process.  Toyota refused an offer to
>> take GM for free in the 2008 GM bankruptcy. That was an extremely wise
>> decision. Everything necessary to make GM work well would have been
>> politically unpopular.
>>
>> Remember, Toyota can manufacture cars and trucks in the US using
>> Americans and make money. There may be more.
>>
>> Steve Offiler AT List member Mechanical Engineer (soffiler at gmail.com);
>> So which automotive companies in your estimation are not run by cabbage
>> heads?
>>
>> James AT List Member (jamesgpeck at hotmail.com); They have cabbage heads
>> running Ford as well. The recent Ranger is far less attractive than the one
>> that preceded it.
>>
>> Steve Offiler AT List member Mechanical Engineer (soffiler at gmail.com);
>> <snip> I've paid so little attention to the return of the Ranger that I
>> barely could tell you it exists.  <snip>
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