[AT] 430V update

[Dean VP]

Spencer, 

 Your problem with the throttle is probably the two friction disks. They may
not be worn out but they may have dried out  and the friction quotient is
messed up. Steiner sells then for $4.35 each.  I don't have experience with
Seiner on this part so I usually go to Deere, The JD dealers want $7.90
each.  Some of the high volume Deere sites active on the web show them at
$6.32 each  such as Green Farm Parts. But then you will have to pay shipping
and you might as well bite the bullet at a nearby JD Dealer. The Steiner
friction disks may be fine and JD isn't the most trustworthy on Two Cylinder
parts anymore either. As an example.  Just order a JD #7 plow bolt by part #
for the older plow moldboards and shares. JD will say it is an obsolete part
number and then provide their substitute part. The sub part is a #3 plow
bolt.  Won't work at all no matter how big a file you have..  We used to
trust JD but on the old two cylinder stuff the parts prices have gone crazy
and the part JD is currently selling may or may not fit.  Many of the
aftermarket companies are more trustworthy. JD would prefer that we buy our
Two Cylinder parts elsewhere. I'm sure there isn't anyone currently working
at Deere that was an employee during the two cylinder era. 

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

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Subject: Re: [AT] 430V update

Couple of things:

First: Great story Farmer!   One of the differences between my experience
and those experiences of list members elsewhere is that I have always worked
small projects and small farms. I never spend more than six hours on the
tractor,  and even then maybe only on a few days in a row, at a time.   I
found the stories where tractors work for days on on end immensely
interesting.  I once ran a forklift for days on end moving equipment between
warehouses but that doesn't count because I couldn't light my cigarette on
the exhaust manifold, which seems to be a common theme. (-;

Second:  sorry for the email outage for about 2 days.  I had an Internet
outage at my place. It's resolved for ATIS but I still have some other
outstanding issues related to the ISP network configuration that is pure
@;;:;^>.  These issues are big enough that I may accelerate some changes I
have been making to the mailing list and website. So stay tuned for those.

Third:  I don't think the WD-40 trick will work with this particular set up.
The dash and throttle lever has the   friction setup. The spring on the
governor linkage up front is what seems to be pulling it.  I am pretty sure
that spring needs more resistance and I need more friction, but now that you
have mentioned it I will look and study more carefully just in case I am
wrong and "need to cool my jets" too :-)

Spencer Yost

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:12 PM, Carl Gogol <cgogol at twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Spencer
> Here is something else you might try-  Have an Allis Chalmers 914H 
> garden tractor that has a friction type throttle lever. About a year 
> after I bought
> (1985) it I was complaining to my neighbor who was the dealer that it 
> was loose and not staying in position.
> 
> He came over to fix it with a can of WD-40 and took the hood off to 
> get to the friction disks.  Instead of tightening the pack he starts 
> to spray the
> WD-40 onto the top of the friction pack. I told him I wanted more 
> friction, not less, probably with a little excitement in my voice.  He 
> told me in perhaps kind words to cool my jets.
> 
> Counter intuitive, but the throttle held position and worked great for 
> years afterwards.  Still have to make that repair every 5-10 years 
> though.  Might work on the 430V.
> Carl
> 
>>> The throttle lever will not hold    idle, nor will it hold wide-open. It
>>> quickly drifts off in both cases.  I had this problem with my John 
>>> Deere
>> B
>>> as well. One of these days I'm going to have to learn how to fix that.
>>> 
>>> Spencer Yost
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As a kid I put a half zillion hours on a new Deere 40-C. The throttle 
>> lever on it got to creeping to where you could not run at full 
>> throttle unless you held it down with a tarp strap. Not knowing what 
>> else to try my father handed me a small medicine bottle of salt water 
>> with an eye-dropper in it and had me occasionally drip a tiny amount 
>> of it in the crack at the base of the throttle lever where it pivoted.
>> I don't know what the proper fix is but that cured that one and it 
>> didn't give any more trouble.  (shrug)  :-)
> 
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