[AT] "older men" and change

[Cecil Bearden]

I have taken the top speed control off of several mowers so they would 
cut the grass like it should.  They will never  see the dealership so I 
don't worry about it.  I sincerely believe that the worst thing that the 
department of education did was to do away with High School shop courses 
like Auto mechanics, Woodshop, metalworking and the most important one, 
DRIVER'S EDUCATION........    The shop courses would teach folks how to 
do the basic repairs around their home, and Driver's Ed would probably 
keep them alive until they got some experience in driving...  I live in 
a rural area, and they did away with the 4H and AG education to replace 
it with a student lounge!!!!!!!

4H, FFA, Vo-Ag  and Ag Ed saved a lot of kids from gangs and jail!!    
Now we just have to teach them how to feel good about nothing...

Rant off

Cecil in oKla


On 3/30/2017 10:00 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
> The HP an engine makes is related to speed and torque. Generally more HP at high RPM. With the push for less noise, etc, most mowers are now running slower that the 3600 RPM normal ratings of the older engines.This is one of the reasons that they changed the way they were advertised.
> I have not used a tach on the newer engines to verify what speeds are now common.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Jason <dejoodster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> They rate small engine differently now because someone sued them because
>> his lawnmower didn't make its 4.5hp or whatever.
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 9:15 PM Greg Hass <ghass at m3isp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this is tractor related as it affects much of what we do. My 30
>>> year old skid steer has been down for over a year but due to health
>>> problems just got to pulling the engine yesterday. It is a Honda 24 hp.
>>> engine I put in less than 200 hours ago. At one third throttle it will
>>> go through a quart of oil in 5 minutes. I think the seal behind the
>>> flywheel came out but have not torn it down yet. Last night just for the
>>> heck of it I looked in the northern tool catalog I recently got to see
>>> what a new engine would cost. NONE of the engines are listed by
>>> horsepower but by cc. and torque. Well I know that means something to
>>> somebody but not me. I have better things to do (a nap comes to mind)
>>> than try and convert those figures. Also, I'm not sure of conversions;
>>> for instance, my Farmall Cub is rated at 10 hp. and is a c60 running at
>>> 1800 RPM. The Cub power unit on our IH 64 combine was also a c60 but ran
>>> at 2900 RPM giving it about 18 hp. so I'm not sure you can go by
>>> displacement. HP rating have worked for a hundred years why change now.
>>> Call on a new tractor and they will give you engine horse; that may be
>>> all and good but only drawbar horse will tell me how many plows I can
>>> pull. A couple of years ago my brother bought a 10,000 watt generator.
>>> He got it home a fueled it up and was test running it when he happened
>>> to glance at the box it came in. In big letters it said 10,000 watts,
>>> but in small print under that it said starting watts. Also in small
>>> print it said 8000 watts running. Turns out when the salesman was
>>> showing the forklift driver which generator to load he just looked at
>>> the top number and took that one . My brother had already used it so now
>>> he is stuck. Have we reached the point where all people can do is
>>> deceive us?  Old man rant over.
>>>          Greg Hass
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