[AT] more HP guaranteed!/now front end on the ground.

[Al Jones]

very first time I ever tried to chisel plow with the 4255 I went about
20' and the nose went up in the air.  I learned to set the draft (even
though it's a crappy JD system) real quick......In our soils I
wouldn't be without it.

Al

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:59 AM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> The only thing we ever had without gauge wheels was a 2 shank
> subsoiler--old school style, not the modern DMI setups.
> I could handle chisel plowing better if I ran only 9 shanks instead of
> 11, just not enough tractor. The only thing I ever ran doing heavy
> tillage has been two 4020 Deeres and a 4430. They all worked pretty good
> plowing, but deep chiseling was a different story. We used to chisel all
> our double cropped soybeans and never had any trouble---but we didn't
> sink it to China either.
>
> John Hall
>
> On 3/18/2017 4:59 PM, Greg Hass wrote:
>> Personally, I have never been a fan of "draft systems" as they have
>> never worked for me. The only tractor that we ever used it on was a
>> Farmall 504 when plowing. Even then we had our hand on the lever at all
>> times and were constantly changing it to do a good job plowing. We have
>> all mixed ground; some parts heavy ground and some parts sand. The way
>> draft control works for me is on sand it plows normal depth and of
>> course in the hard pull the plow raises and might only go four inches
>> deep which is the opposite of what I want. I prefer to plow  sand the
>> same depth as clay or maybe even shallower. It does me no good to have
>> the heavy ground plowed shallow. I now have four tractors with draft
>> control but haven't used it on any of them in years. For plowing I use a
>> 3-18 inch roll-over plow. It has a very good depth wheel on the side any
>> I adjust that and the plow stays an even depth. I also have a 7 shank
>> chisel plow which is 3 pt. hitch. I bought it used and the previous
>> owner had built depth wheels on each side; he did a very professional
>> job. Same as with the plow, I just put it down on the wheels and go and
>> the depth stays the same. One advantage I have over the old days is I
>> bought a front wheel assist tractor 40 hp bigger than what I had but
>> kept the same equipment so tough spots don't really bother me. I'm not
>> saying draft control is useless and no one should use it; just telling
>> my experience with it. If it works for you, more power to you.
>>         Greg Hass
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