[AT] more HP guaranteed!/now front end on the ground.

[charlie hill]

John the chisel plows the guys around here used to run (I haven't seen one 
in years)
required 10 hp per tine plus 10 hp so an 11 tine needed 120 drawbar hp. 
That was in
moderate to light soil.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Hall
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:59 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] more HP guaranteed!/now front end on the ground.

The only thing we ever had without gauge wheels was a 2 shank
subsoiler--old school style, not the modern DMI setups.
I could handle chisel plowing better if I ran only 9 shanks instead of
11, just not enough tractor. The only thing I ever ran doing heavy
tillage has been two 4020 Deeres and a 4430. They all worked pretty good
plowing, but deep chiseling was a different story. We used to chisel all
our double cropped soybeans and never had any trouble---but we didn't
sink it to China either.

John Hall

On 3/18/2017 4:59 PM, Greg Hass wrote:
> Personally, I have never been a fan of "draft systems" as they have
> never worked for me. The only tractor that we ever used it on was a
> Farmall 504 when plowing. Even then we had our hand on the lever at all
> times and were constantly changing it to do a good job plowing. We have
> all mixed ground; some parts heavy ground and some parts sand. The way
> draft control works for me is on sand it plows normal depth and of
> course in the hard pull the plow raises and might only go four inches
> deep which is the opposite of what I want. I prefer to plow  sand the
> same depth as clay or maybe even shallower. It does me no good to have
> the heavy ground plowed shallow. I now have four tractors with draft
> control but haven't used it on any of them in years. For plowing I use a
> 3-18 inch roll-over plow. It has a very good depth wheel on the side any
> I adjust that and the plow stays an even depth. I also have a 7 shank
> chisel plow which is 3 pt. hitch. I bought it used and the previous
> owner had built depth wheels on each side; he did a very professional
> job. Same as with the plow, I just put it down on the wheels and go and
> the depth stays the same. One advantage I have over the old days is I
> bought a front wheel assist tractor 40 hp bigger than what I had but
> kept the same equipment so tough spots don't really bother me. I'm not
> saying draft control is useless and no one should use it; just telling
> my experience with it. If it works for you, more power to you.
>         Greg Hass
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at

_______________________________________________
AT mailing list
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at