[AT] more HP guaranteed!/now front end on the ground.

[John Hall]

The only thing we ever had without gauge wheels was a 2 shank 
subsoiler--old school style, not the modern DMI setups.
I could handle chisel plowing better if I ran only 9 shanks instead of 
11, just not enough tractor. The only thing I ever ran doing heavy 
tillage has been two 4020 Deeres and a 4430. They all worked pretty good 
plowing, but deep chiseling was a different story. We used to chisel all 
our double cropped soybeans and never had any trouble---but we didn't 
sink it to China either.

John Hall

On 3/18/2017 4:59 PM, Greg Hass wrote:
> Personally, I have never been a fan of "draft systems" as they have
> never worked for me. The only tractor that we ever used it on was a
> Farmall 504 when plowing. Even then we had our hand on the lever at all
> times and were constantly changing it to do a good job plowing. We have
> all mixed ground; some parts heavy ground and some parts sand. The way
> draft control works for me is on sand it plows normal depth and of
> course in the hard pull the plow raises and might only go four inches
> deep which is the opposite of what I want. I prefer to plow  sand the
> same depth as clay or maybe even shallower. It does me no good to have
> the heavy ground plowed shallow. I now have four tractors with draft
> control but haven't used it on any of them in years. For plowing I use a
> 3-18 inch roll-over plow. It has a very good depth wheel on the side any
> I adjust that and the plow stays an even depth. I also have a 7 shank
> chisel plow which is 3 pt. hitch. I bought it used and the previous
> owner had built depth wheels on each side; he did a very professional
> job. Same as with the plow, I just put it down on the wheels and go and
> the depth stays the same. One advantage I have over the old days is I
> bought a front wheel assist tractor 40 hp bigger than what I had but
> kept the same equipment so tough spots don't really bother me. I'm not
> saying draft control is useless and no one should use it; just telling
> my experience with it. If it works for you, more power to you.
>         Greg Hass
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