[AT] Weekend issues

John Hall jtchall at nc.rr.com
Tue Sep 20 17:46:08 PDT 2016 

You would be surprised how hard it is to come by here. I can think of 
possibly one or two lumber yards that may can get it. All the 
independent sawmills have shut down, unless you can find someone with a 
bandsawmill. I guess its a byproduct of living in a fairly heavily 
populated area, home improvement stores are everywhere! About 15 years 
ago we needed some rough cut lumber for a repair on the barn, it took a 
while to find it-now that place is out of business.

Let me know if you hear of anyone needing a couple sawmill blades, dad 
has a couple around 4' or so---I was told they need hammering.

John

On 9/20/2016 5:33 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> John, Southern Yellow pine is still pretty easy to come by here in the
> east.  You might not get it from Lowes or Home Depot but the regular
> wholesale lumber houses have plenty of it.  True it's not the old growth,
> high quality stuff we used to have but it's ok as long as it's clear of
> knots.
> I saw a truck load of logs today that were cut very near my house.  Nice
> yellow pine with a heart about the size of a quarter and tight growth rings
> all the way out.  I didn't count it but it appeared to be about 40 to 50
> year old trees.
> If you can still find an independent saw mill, there are a couple near here,
> you can
> get some pretty good stuff from them.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hall
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:22 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Weekend issues
>
> You beat me too it Cecil! Yellow pine is some tough stuff. And its hard
> to find even here in the South! We've got 2 loading boards made from it
> and it works fine. When dad retired back in 91 he was doing a ton of
> work on Cub Cadets. Had a fellow come pick up one and was going to drive
> it up 2 of those real pretty white looking 2 x 10's. Both boards snapped
> at about the same place and at the same time. I learned right then that
> crap isn't fit for doing anything but building houses. Speaking of
> which, if you are working on an old house built out of yellow pine, you
> know real quick what quality lumber it is!
>
> By the way, I ain't crazy enough to drive anything up a set of wood ramps!
>
> John
>
>
> On 9/19/2016 9:36 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
>> you might try 2X10 #2 Southern Yellow Pine.   Most of the lumber today
>> is whitewoods  Fir, or whatever grows fast.
>>
>> I have an aluminum folding ATV ramp that I riveted some sheet aluminum
>> onto the rungs.  When I carry it or the long curved set of ramps, they
>> are locked into the truck or trailer along with the chain and lock that
>> locks my ATV into the truck or trailer.   It takes a few extra minutes,
>> but the ramps have been with me for the last 15 years.
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2016 6:40 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>> Farmer,
>>>
>>> I agree that there are many solutions to this, engineered wood (but they
>>> would not like rain or elements), store bought aluminum ramps if I locked
>>> them in place, steel ramps, and combinations of wood and steel. Custom
>>> cut from a mill with full 2" thickness might be the best option if I can
>>> find a mill and take some time to go get them. Maybe it is time to switch
>>> to 2 X 12 boards but will need to carry them on edge because I do not
>>> want to have mower offset too much to the side.
>>>
>>> What is frustrating is that I have used 2 X 8 or 2 X 10's for 20 plus
>>> years to load LAWN MOWERS. That is why Cecil's comment about good wood
>>> going outside the USA got me to thinking that he may have a valid point.
>>> I switched to 2 X 10's when I got mowers a little bit heavier than what I
>>> had 20 years ago. Every 5 to 10 years something happens and I need to
>>> replace the wood. The center support method has some issues on dealing
>>> with truck and trailer suspension flex. When I have something a bit
>>> heavier (like my Bolens 1502H) I had done the center support blocks.
>>>
>>> I like this method because they are reasonably light, cheap, weather
>>> resistant if treated. They are quick to put up and down. And I have a
>>> post welded to the trailer and a hole in one end of the ramp where I can
>>> just put them down over the pin and drive off with no worry. I have not
>>> had problems with anyone trying to steal a board.
>>>
>>> Another thing that bothers me is that the new board has about 1 inch of
>>> extra deflection compared to the old 2 X 10 that has aged 3 or 4 years.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If I wanted wood ramp boards I think I would consider laminated
>>>> engineered
>>>> lumber. Really strong stuff and no weak points.
>>>> If I ever was suspicious of loading boards / weight combinations I
>>>> reduced
>>>> their length by half with blocks under the middle but with a warning.
>>>> Blocking under the middle can make one end or the other lift (and move)
>>>> at
>>>> the end like at the truck bed. To prevent that movement the middle
>>>> blocks
>>>> should be low enough that the middle of the boards can flex down a
>>>> couple
>>>> of inches before contacting the support blocks. That keeps weight on
>>>> both
>>>> ends of the board.
>>>> I needed a shortish pair of ramps for loading my Cub several years ago
>>>> so I
>>>> made them out of a couple of pieces of light-ish "I" beam cut from a
>>>> removable mobile home hitch and used them flat. I cut a couple of 12"
>>>> pieces of an old "U" steel fence post and welded them across one end of
>>>> each ramp cup down. That sits on a support across the back of several
>>>> trailers. They will also work to roll logs onto my little Woodmizer
>>>> sawmill
>>>> (if I ever get a chance to use it).
>>>> The Cub weighs about 1,800 pounds and it does not flex the ramps. They
>>>> are
>>>> maybe 5' long.
>>>> I have not shown anything for several years but I think I can next year.
>>>> I
>>>> finally completely quit the Atorvastatin and the Zetia both and at long
>>>> last actually feel like I am really healing. The Atorvastatin (Lipitor)
>>>> was
>>>> really destructive on muscle tissue along with a whole basket-full of
>>>> other
>>>> bad side effects. The Zetia was causing severe shortness of breath. My
>>>> regular Dr. is quite open minded about treatments but the cardiac folks
>>>> all
>>>> seem to be playing a one string banjo... It largely involves a bad case
>>>> of
>>>> denial of any side effects of those two drugs.If I croak more quickly
>>>> from
>>>> not taking them it will still be better than the life I was living with
>>>> the
>>>> side effects...
>>>> I could have asked son Scott to haul a tractor to a show and he has in
>>>> the
>>>> past but he does a huge amount to keep us going as it is. He and I did
>>>> visit 3 nearby shows this summer together.
>>>> I saw a quote on-line this morning: "Sometimes it takes me all day to
>>>> accomplish nothing."  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to borrow better equipment. :-}
>>>>>
>>>>>       On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:44 AM, Cecil Bearden <
>>>>> crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like the typical quality problems we endure these days. Cover
>>>>> the
>>>>> bottom of those ramps with a 1/8 sheet of steel or aluminum and they
>>>>> will hold together.  All the good lumber in the US is shipped
>>>>> overseas.  We get the crap.  Those senders were probably made in China
>>>>> or India.  Parts houses don't carry the fittings they used to.
>>>>> Hardware
>>>>> stores are the best bet on that now...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil in Okla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/19/2016 12:42 AM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> All
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last few days I have been hit with stupid little stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Borrowing my son's V10 Ram to haul some mowers to Okla. leaving 2
>>>>>> there
>>>>> with someone and hauling my Hustler back after doing some mowing there.
>>>>>> V10 failed an oil pressure sender Wednesday near Ennis Tx. Changed it
>>>>> out in parts store parking lot, which was not fun on hot engine. This
>>>>> morning on the way to church the replacement sender also failed,
>>>>> putting a
>>>>> small stream of oil out the electrical connection, just like the first
>>>>> one
>>>>> did. Got replacement under warranty, but went to 6 places looking for
>>>>> 1/8
>>>>> NPT 45 elbow and could not find. Want to move sensor so I can get a
>>>>> wrench
>>>>> or sender socket on it. Finally found short nipple and coupling that
>>>>> should
>>>>> move it away from block slightly. Tomorrow morning will try to install
>>>>> the
>>>>> second sensor when engine is cool before I start it.
>>>>>> Yesterday I snapped one of the blade spindle housings in two pieces on
>>>>> my Hustler Fastrack SD mower. Was able to fine some replacement parts
>>>>> just
>>>>> before store closed. Was able to finish mowing this afternoon.
>>>>>> This weekend the 2 X 10 ramps I use to load mower failed near a knot
>>>>> hole. Friday I got a new 2 X 10, and it snapped in two pieces on
>>>>> Saturday.
>>>>> Yesterday got a second replacement on that also.
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> Central Indiana USA
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