[AT] Weekend issues

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Tue Sep 20 20:34:56 PDT 2016


I have been looking for a 48 in or larger for my old 1923 Frick sawmill.

Cecil in OKla


On 9/20/2016 7:46 PM, John Hall wrote:
> You would be surprised how hard it is to come by here. I can think of
> possibly one or two lumber yards that may can get it. All the
> independent sawmills have shut down, unless you can find someone with a
> bandsawmill. I guess its a byproduct of living in a fairly heavily
> populated area, home improvement stores are everywhere! About 15 years
> ago we needed some rough cut lumber for a repair on the barn, it took a
> while to find it-now that place is out of business.
>
> Let me know if you hear of anyone needing a couple sawmill blades, dad
> has a couple around 4' or so---I was told they need hammering.
>
> John
>
> On 9/20/2016 5:33 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> John, Southern Yellow pine is still pretty easy to come by here in the
>> east.  You might not get it from Lowes or Home Depot but the regular
>> wholesale lumber houses have plenty of it.  True it's not the old growth,
>> high quality stuff we used to have but it's ok as long as it's clear of
>> knots.
>> I saw a truck load of logs today that were cut very near my house.  Nice
>> yellow pine with a heart about the size of a quarter and tight growth rings
>> all the way out.  I didn't count it but it appeared to be about 40 to 50
>> year old trees.
>> If you can still find an independent saw mill, there are a couple near here,
>> you can
>> get some pretty good stuff from them.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Hall
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:22 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Weekend issues
>>
>> You beat me too it Cecil! Yellow pine is some tough stuff. And its hard
>> to find even here in the South! We've got 2 loading boards made from it
>> and it works fine. When dad retired back in 91 he was doing a ton of
>> work on Cub Cadets. Had a fellow come pick up one and was going to drive
>> it up 2 of those real pretty white looking 2 x 10's. Both boards snapped
>> at about the same place and at the same time. I learned right then that
>> crap isn't fit for doing anything but building houses. Speaking of
>> which, if you are working on an old house built out of yellow pine, you
>> know real quick what quality lumber it is!
>>
>> By the way, I ain't crazy enough to drive anything up a set of wood ramps!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2016 9:36 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
>>> you might try 2X10 #2 Southern Yellow Pine.   Most of the lumber today
>>> is whitewoods  Fir, or whatever grows fast.
>>>
>>> I have an aluminum folding ATV ramp that I riveted some sheet aluminum
>>> onto the rungs.  When I carry it or the long curved set of ramps, they
>>> are locked into the truck or trailer along with the chain and lock that
>>> locks my ATV into the truck or trailer.   It takes a few extra minutes,
>>> but the ramps have been with me for the last 15 years.
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/2016 6:40 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>> Farmer,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that there are many solutions to this, engineered wood (but they
>>>> would not like rain or elements), store bought aluminum ramps if I locked
>>>> them in place, steel ramps, and combinations of wood and steel. Custom
>>>> cut from a mill with full 2" thickness might be the best option if I can
>>>> find a mill and take some time to go get them. Maybe it is time to switch
>>>> to 2 X 12 boards but will need to carry them on edge because I do not
>>>> want to have mower offset too much to the side.
>>>>
>>>> What is frustrating is that I have used 2 X 8 or 2 X 10's for 20 plus
>>>> years to load LAWN MOWERS. That is why Cecil's comment about good wood
>>>> going outside the USA got me to thinking that he may have a valid point.
>>>> I switched to 2 X 10's when I got mowers a little bit heavier than what I
>>>> had 20 years ago. Every 5 to 10 years something happens and I need to
>>>> replace the wood. The center support method has some issues on dealing
>>>> with truck and trailer suspension flex. When I have something a bit
>>>> heavier (like my Bolens 1502H) I had done the center support blocks.
>>>>
>>>> I like this method because they are reasonably light, cheap, weather
>>>> resistant if treated. They are quick to put up and down. And I have a
>>>> post welded to the trailer and a hole in one end of the ramp where I can
>>>> just put them down over the pin and drive off with no worry. I have not
>>>> had problems with anyone trying to steal a board.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing that bothers me is that the new board has about 1 inch of
>>>> extra deflection compared to the old 2 X 10 that has aged 3 or 4 years.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If I wanted wood ramp boards I think I would consider laminated
>>>>> engineered
>>>>> lumber. Really strong stuff and no weak points.
>>>>> If I ever was suspicious of loading boards / weight combinations I
>>>>> reduced
>>>>> their length by half with blocks under the middle but with a warning.
>>>>> Blocking under the middle can make one end or the other lift (and move)
>>>>> at
>>>>> the end like at the truck bed. To prevent that movement the middle
>>>>> blocks
>>>>> should be low enough that the middle of the boards can flex down a
>>>>> couple
>>>>> of inches before contacting the support blocks. That keeps weight on
>>>>> both
>>>>> ends of the board.
>>>>> I needed a shortish pair of ramps for loading my Cub several years ago
>>>>> so I
>>>>> made them out of a couple of pieces of light-ish "I" beam cut from a
>>>>> removable mobile home hitch and used them flat. I cut a couple of 12"
>>>>> pieces of an old "U" steel fence post and welded them across one end of
>>>>> each ramp cup down. That sits on a support across the back of several
>>>>> trailers. They will also work to roll logs onto my little Woodmizer
>>>>> sawmill
>>>>> (if I ever get a chance to use it).
>>>>> The Cub weighs about 1,800 pounds and it does not flex the ramps. They
>>>>> are
>>>>> maybe 5' long.
>>>>> I have not shown anything for several years but I think I can next year.
>>>>> I
>>>>> finally completely quit the Atorvastatin and the Zetia both and at long
>>>>> last actually feel like I am really healing. The Atorvastatin (Lipitor)
>>>>> was
>>>>> really destructive on muscle tissue along with a whole basket-full of
>>>>> other
>>>>> bad side effects. The Zetia was causing severe shortness of breath. My
>>>>> regular Dr. is quite open minded about treatments but the cardiac folks
>>>>> all
>>>>> seem to be playing a one string banjo... It largely involves a bad case
>>>>> of
>>>>> denial of any side effects of those two drugs.If I croak more quickly
>>>>> from
>>>>> not taking them it will still be better than the life I was living with
>>>>> the
>>>>> side effects...
>>>>> I could have asked son Scott to haul a tractor to a show and he has in
>>>>> the
>>>>> past but he does a huge amount to keep us going as it is. He and I did
>>>>> visit 3 nearby shows this summer together.
>>>>> I saw a quote on-line this morning: "Sometimes it takes me all day to
>>>>> accomplish nothing."  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to borrow better equipment. :-}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:44 AM, Cecil Bearden <
>>>>>> crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like the typical quality problems we endure these days. Cover
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bottom of those ramps with a 1/8 sheet of steel or aluminum and they
>>>>>> will hold together.  All the good lumber in the US is shipped
>>>>>> overseas.  We get the crap.  Those senders were probably made in China
>>>>>> or India.  Parts houses don't carry the fittings they used to.
>>>>>> Hardware
>>>>>> stores are the best bet on that now...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil in Okla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/19/2016 12:42 AM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The last few days I have been hit with stupid little stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Borrowing my son's V10 Ram to haul some mowers to Okla. leaving 2
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>> with someone and hauling my Hustler back after doing some mowing there.
>>>>>>> V10 failed an oil pressure sender Wednesday near Ennis Tx. Changed it
>>>>>> out in parts store parking lot, which was not fun on hot engine. This
>>>>>> morning on the way to church the replacement sender also failed,
>>>>>> putting a
>>>>>> small stream of oil out the electrical connection, just like the first
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> did. Got replacement under warranty, but went to 6 places looking for
>>>>>> 1/8
>>>>>> NPT 45 elbow and could not find. Want to move sensor so I can get a
>>>>>> wrench
>>>>>> or sender socket on it. Finally found short nipple and coupling that
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> move it away from block slightly. Tomorrow morning will try to install
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> second sensor when engine is cool before I start it.
>>>>>>> Yesterday I snapped one of the blade spindle housings in two pieces on
>>>>>> my Hustler Fastrack SD mower. Was able to fine some replacement parts
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> before store closed. Was able to finish mowing this afternoon.
>>>>>>> This weekend the 2 X 10 ramps I use to load mower failed near a knot
>>>>>> hole. Friday I got a new 2 X 10, and it snapped in two pieces on
>>>>>> Saturday.
>>>>>> Yesterday got a second replacement on that also.
>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>> aka "farmer"
>>>>> Central Indiana USA
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