[AT] Weekend issues

Mon Sep 19 23:16:54 PDT 2016

Dennis, if you are spry enough to crawl under a truck and install and 
modify then reinstall an oil sensor,  you are spry enough to lift what I 
calculate to be a 50 lb ramp. Most of this list is made up of gents of 
similar vintage. Farmers glue lam would be no lighter, neither would a 
2x8 oak board.

Regard,
  Mike M

On 9/19/2016 10:59 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Being an old man, I get concerned about weight. Yes, it would work.
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dennis, to borrow on Farmer's idea, what if you were to make a
>> sandwiched beam with (2) 2 x 8's screwed together with a plywood center
>> as a stiffener? Like a load bearing header.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>>> On 9/19/2016 7:40 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>> Farmer,
>>>
>>> I agree that there are many solutions to this, engineered wood (but they would not like rain or elements), store bought aluminum ramps if I locked them in place, steel ramps, and combinations of wood and steel. Custom cut from a mill with full 2" thickness might be the best option if I can find a mill and take some time to go get them. Maybe it is time to switch to 2 X 12 boards but will need to carry them on edge because I do not want to have mower offset too much to the side.
>>>
>>> What is frustrating is that I have used 2 X 8 or 2 X 10's for 20 plus years to load LAWN MOWERS. That is why Cecil's comment about good wood going outside the USA got me to thinking that he may have a valid point. I switched to 2 X 10's when I got mowers a little bit heavier than what I had 20 years ago. Every 5 to 10 years something happens and I need to replace the wood. The center support method has some issues on dealing with truck and trailer suspension flex. When I have something a bit heavier (like my Bolens 1502H) I had done the center support blocks.
>>>
>>> I like this method because they are reasonably light, cheap, weather resistant if treated. They are quick to put up and down. And I have a post welded to the trailer and a hole in one end of the ramp where I can just put them down over the pin and drive off with no worry. I have not had problems with anyone trying to steal a board.
>>>
>>> Another thing that bothers me is that the new board has about 1 inch of extra deflection compared to the old 2 X 10 that has aged 3 or 4 years.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If I wanted wood ramp boards I think I would consider laminated engineered
>>>> lumber. Really strong stuff and no weak points.
>>>> If I ever was suspicious of loading boards / weight combinations I reduced
>>>> their length by half with blocks under the middle but with a warning.
>>>> Blocking under the middle can make one end or the other lift (and move) at
>>>> the end like at the truck bed. To prevent that movement the middle blocks
>>>> should be low enough that the middle of the boards can flex down a couple
>>>> of inches before contacting the support blocks. That keeps weight on both
>>>> ends of the board.
>>>> I needed a shortish pair of ramps for loading my Cub several years ago so I
>>>> made them out of a couple of pieces of light-ish "I" beam cut from a
>>>> removable mobile home hitch and used them flat. I cut a couple of 12"
>>>> pieces of an old "U" steel fence post and welded them across one end of
>>>> each ramp cup down. That sits on a support across the back of several
>>>> trailers. They will also work to roll logs onto my little Woodmizer sawmill
>>>> (if I ever get a chance to use it).
>>>> The Cub weighs about 1,800 pounds and it does not flex the ramps. They are
>>>> maybe 5' long.
>>>> I have not shown anything for several years but I think I can next year. I
>>>> finally completely quit the Atorvastatin and the Zetia both and at long
>>>> last actually feel like I am really healing. The Atorvastatin (Lipitor) was
>>>> really destructive on muscle tissue along with a whole basket-full of other
>>>> bad side effects. The Zetia was causing severe shortness of breath. My
>>>> regular Dr. is quite open minded about treatments but the cardiac folks all
>>>> seem to be playing a one string banjo... It largely involves a bad case of
>>>> denial of any side effects of those two drugs.If I croak more quickly from
>>>> not taking them it will still be better than the life I was living with the
>>>> side effects...
>>>> I could have asked son Scott to haul a tractor to a show and he has in the
>>>> past but he does a huge amount to keep us going as it is. He and I did
>>>> visit 3 nearby shows this summer together.
>>>> I saw a quote on-line this morning: "Sometimes it takes me all day to
>>>> accomplish nothing."  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to borrow better equipment. :-}
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:44 AM, Cecil Bearden <
>>>>> crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like the typical quality problems we endure these days. Cover the
>>>>> bottom of those ramps with a 1/8 sheet of steel or aluminum and they
>>>>> will hold together.  All the good lumber in the US is shipped
>>>>> overseas.  We get the crap.  Those senders were probably made in China
>>>>> or India.  Parts houses don't carry the fittings they used to.  Hardware
>>>>> stores are the best bet on that now...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil in Okla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/19/2016 12:42 AM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> All
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last few days I have been hit with stupid little stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Borrowing my son's V10 Ram to haul some mowers to Okla. leaving 2 there
>>>>> with someone and hauling my Hustler back after doing some mowing there.
>>>>>> V10 failed an oil pressure sender Wednesday near Ennis Tx. Changed it
>>>>> out in parts store parking lot, which was not fun on hot engine. This
>>>>> morning on the way to church the replacement sender also failed, putting a
>>>>> small stream of oil out the electrical connection, just like the first one
>>>>> did. Got replacement under warranty, but went to 6 places looking for 1/8
>>>>> NPT 45 elbow and could not find. Want to move sensor so I can get a wrench
>>>>> or sender socket on it. Finally found short nipple and coupling that should
>>>>> move it away from block slightly. Tomorrow morning will try to install the
>>>>> second sensor when engine is cool before I start it.
>>>>>> Yesterday I snapped one of the blade spindle housings in two pieces on
>>>>> my Hustler Fastrack SD mower. Was able to fine some replacement parts just
>>>>> before store closed. Was able to finish mowing this afternoon.
>>>>>> This weekend the 2 X 10 ramps I use to load mower failed near a knot
>>>>> hole. Friday I got a new 2 X 10, and it snapped in two pieces on Saturday.
>>>>> Yesterday got a second replacement on that also.
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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